CERN vs Fermilab: Which is Better for Theoretical Physicists?

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The discussion evaluates CERN and Fermilab as potential workplaces for theoretical physicists, focusing on criteria such as job stability, access to research, freedom of work, colleague quality, technology, and pay. It emphasizes the competitive nature of securing permanent positions, particularly after one postdoc, and notes that many factors influencing this decision are beyond individual control. The conversation suggests that aspiring physicists should prioritize their education and experience before making such comparisons.

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As a theoretical physicist, what is a better facility to work at? (based on the following criteria)

Job stability
Access to new research
Freedom of work (Any field)
Better colleagues
Better Tech/Equipment
Better pay (not that important)
 
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This is like deciding whether you want to pitch for the Red Sox or the Yankees while still it little league.

Finish high school, then college, then graduate school, then one or two postdocs, and then we will talk.
 
Vanadium 50 said:
This is like deciding whether you want to pitch for the Red Sox or the Yankees while still it little league.

Finish high school, then college, then graduate school, then one or two postdocs, and then we will talk.
Should I really have two?
also I was wondering if anyone worked there and had reviews but I see what you mean
thanks!
 
McWonald said:
Should I really have two?
It is very hard to get a permanent position after one postdoc, especially in theoretical physics, especially at CERN and Fermilab.

Anyway, that decision will depend on so many factors, most of them are out of your influence. Don't worry about that now. Also, there is much more than just CERN and Fermilab.
 
mfb said:
It is very hard to get a permanent position after one postdoc, especially in theoretical physics, especially at CERN and Fermilab.

Anyway, that decision will depend on so many factors, most of them are out of your influence. Don't worry about that now. Also, there is much more than just CERN and Fermilab.

I understand, thanks anyways
 

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