Calculating df/dg with Chain Rule: Romeo's Guide

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The discussion centers on the calculation of the derivative of one function with respect to another using the chain rule, specifically for functions f(x,y,z) and g(x,y,z). Participants clarify that while it is nonsensical to compute df/dg directly, one can derive relationships using partial derivatives and the chain rule. The correct approach involves recognizing that both functions have multiple variables, leading to the use of partial derivatives, denoted as ∂f/∂x, ∂f/∂y, and ∂f/∂z. The conversation emphasizes the importance of understanding the context and assumptions regarding the functions involved.

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Mark44 said:
This really doesn't make much sense. You don't calculate the derivative of a function with respect to some other function, but you do calculate the derivative of a function with respect to one of its variables. Here g is a function, not a variable, so df/dg is nonsensical.

For another thing, both functions here have multiple variables, so instead of df/dx, df/dy, and df/dz, you would be working with partial derivatives,
\frac{\partial f}{\partial x}, \frac{\partial f}{\partial y}, \text{and} \frac{\partial f}{\partial z}

Other notation for these partials is fx, fy, and fz.
I disagree strongly with this- you always take the derivative of a function with respect to another function! In basic Calculus , of course, that second function is the identity function, x. But asking for the derivative of f with respect to g is just asking how fast f changes relative to g. If f and g are functions of the single variable, x, then, by the chain rule
\frac{df}{dg}= \frac{df}{dx}\frac{dx}{dg}= \frac{\frac{df}{dx}}{\frac{dg}{dx}}

If f and g are functions of the two variables x and y,
\frac{df}{dg}= \frac{\frac{\partial f}{\partial x}}{\frac{\partial g}{\partial x}}+ \frac{\frac{\partial f}{\partial y}}{\frac{\partial g}{\partial y}}
 

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