Change in the Earth's orbit radius from changing mass of the Sun

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The discussion centers on the impact of the Sun's mass loss on Earth's orbital radius, specifically transitioning from mass M1 to mass M2 and its effect on the orbit from radius R1 to R2. The final relationship derived is R2 = M1R1/M2, indicating a direct correlation between the Sun's mass and Earth's orbital radius. Participants emphasize the need for additional equations to solve the problem, suggesting that conservation principles play a crucial role in understanding the dynamics involved.

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Consider the Earth's orbit around the sun orbit as circular. Suppose the sun slowly loses mass from mass M1 to mass M2. Suppose that the initial orbit is R1 and the final orbit is R2. Express R2 in terms of the other parameters.
2. The attempt at a solution
The problem I'm having here is relating the two equations for the gravitational force initially and finally. I can't think what is conserved in this situation. The final answer is supposed to be M1R1/M2. Looks like something to do with moments but I can't figure out what.
 
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Rwindsor1 said:
I can't think what is conserved in this situation.
Are there any unbalanced external torques?
The final answer is supposed to be M1R1/R2.
You seem to have mis-quoted the answer.
 
jbriggs444 said:
Are there any unbalanced external torques?

You seem to have mis-quoted the answer.

Apologies, corrected now. And I don't believe there is, but when I tried moments I was always left with one too many variables to solve the equation
 
Rwindsor1 said:
Apologies, corrected now. And I don't believe there is, but when I tried moments I was always left with one too many variables to solve the equation
If you have too many variables then likely you need more equations. But you have not shown any equations. There was a place on the homework template for them.
 
jbriggs444 said:
If you have too many variables then likely you need more equations. But you have not shown any equations. There was a place on the homework template for them.
This is what I meant by I feel there is something else that must be conserved. I know I need another equation, I just don't know what that is.
 
Rwindsor1 said:
This is what I meant by I feel there is something else that must be conserved. I know I need another equation, I just don't know what that is.
Something else? What thing have you decided is conserved so far?
 

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