Hohmann transfer ellipse to Mars orbit from LEO

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The discussion revolves around calculating the change in velocity required for a satellite to transition from a low Earth orbit (LEO) of 320 km to a Hohmann transfer ellipse towards Mars. The problem involves concepts from orbital mechanics and energy conservation.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss various methods to calculate the necessary change in velocity, including energy conservation principles and the relationship between kinetic and potential energy. There are attempts to reconcile different velocities and escape conditions, with some participants expressing confusion over referential frames.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants sharing their calculations and reasoning. Some have proposed methods that yield results close to the expected change in velocity, while others express skepticism about the validity of certain sources and calculations. There is no explicit consensus, but several lines of reasoning are being explored.

Contextual Notes

Participants note discrepancies in expected velocity changes and question the assumptions underlying their calculations. There is mention of a potential Oberth effect and the need to clarify the relationship between different velocities involved in the transition from LEO to the transfer orbit.

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Homework Statement


We want to send a satellite from a low Earth orbit of 320 km to mars. Calculate the change in velocity required to join the transfer ellipse.

Homework Equations


Earth velocity: (μS/REarthRev)1/2
Transfer velocity at perihelion: (2μSRMarsRev/(REarthRev(REarthRev+RMarsRev))1/2
Orbital velocity at LEO: (μE/RLEO)1/2
Escape velocity at LEO: (2μS/REarthRev)1/2

The Attempt at a Solution


Ok so the Earth velocity is about 29780 m/s, the transfer velocity has to be 32730 m/s at perihelion (when it meets the Earth's revolution orbit). The orbital velocity is 7722 m/s and the minimal escape velocity is 10920 m/s. At minimal escape velocity, the maximal total departure velocity of the satellite from the sun's referential would be 40 700 m/s. However, this velocity drops as the satellite moves away from Earth, the escape velocity tending towards 0 and the total velocity tending towards 32780, all this because of the gain in potential energy. Counting the sun's attraction, this means the satellite would follow an orbit around the sun fairly similar to the Earth's. We could then suppose that the velocity needed for the satellite to escape the Earth's orbit has to be added somehow to the velocity needed to join the transfer ellipse. However, I have absolutely no idea how to combine the kinetic and potential energy of a system within another system and therefore I don't know when to sum kinetic energies, when to sum velocities directly, etc. I know that the final answer should be a gain in velocity of about 3600 m/s, far less than the 6138 obtained by summing the missing velocities directly and that this has something to do with some kind of Oberth effect, but I really can't seem to figure it out.
 
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My attempt so far: The difference in energy between the Earth's revolution orbit and the transfer orbit is μS(RMarsRev-(REarthRev)/(2REarthRev(RMarsRev+REarthRev)). If we express the satellite's energy as the sum of the Earth's and the satellite's, the difference between the satellite's energy and the transfer orbit energy becomes μS(RMarsRev-(REarthRev)/(2REarthRev(RMarsRev+REarthRev)) + μS/2RLEO. Also, knowing that (v+Δv)2/2=v2/2 + v Δv/2+ Δv2/2, I obtained ΔKE=v Δv/2+ Δv2/2. The problem is v is relative to the referential and I'm mixing up referentials. What I'm trying now is finding the ΔKE at LOE for any Δv, using v=vLOE, then substracting the ΔKE required to escape the Earth's gravity and obtain ΔKE after the escape, for which we know v is the Earth's speed around the Sun and we want Δv=2950 m/s. It could definitely be made simpler but it seems to make sense...
 
Raphael30 said:
I know that the final answer should be a gain in velocity of about 3600 m/s, far less than the 6138 obtained by summing the missing velocities directly...
Not sure how that's possible given that the ΔV for escaping LEO is already 3198 m/s. That would only leave a budget of 402 m/s to go from Earth orbit to Mars orbit.
 
I don't have a terrible lot of faith in Wikipedia content. I'll plug away at the ΔV's for a bit to see if it's plausible, but I don't hold much hope.
 
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From what I see everywhere, the way people solve this is: 1) use conservation of energy to find an equation for the remaining relative velocity as the distance from the Earth tends towards infinity for any burnout velocity greater then escape velocity 2) invert this to have the burnout velocity as a function of the remaining velocity: v0=(vrem2 + vesc2)0.5 3) use vp-vE as the remaining velocity 4) substract the orbital velocity from the burnout velocity to find the necessary push. With our values and this method, the result is slightly below 3600 m/s. The method clearly requires corrections but it sounds like a pretty decent approximation.
 
Yes, I came across similar workings when I went exploring the web.

Once I realized that the "patching conic" going from LEO to the Hohmann transfer orbit is a hyperbolic trajectory, the method becomes clear.

For any hyperbolic orbit,
##v^2 = v_{esc}^2 + v_\infty^2##
Where:

##v## is the velocity on orbit
##v_{esc}^2## is the local escape velocity
##v_\infty^2## is the hyperbolic excess velocity (remaining speed at infinity)
Now, we want ##v_\infty## to be the difference between the transfer orbit speed and the Earth's orbital speed (so when the object has "escaped" from the Earth it will have the speed required to be on the Hohmann transfer orbit). Find ##v## for the LEO position and then the required ##\Delta V## is the difference between it and the LEO orbit speed.
 

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