Change in the Earth's orbit radius from changing mass of the Sun

Click For Summary

Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around the change in the Earth's orbit radius as a result of the Sun losing mass. The original poster presents a scenario involving gravitational forces and seeks to express the final orbit radius in terms of the initial parameters.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the conservation laws relevant to the problem, questioning what physical quantities remain constant as the Sun loses mass. There is discussion about the potential need for additional equations to relate the variables involved.

Discussion Status

The conversation is ongoing, with participants actively questioning assumptions and seeking clarification on the conservation principles at play. There is recognition of the need for more equations to resolve the problem, but no consensus on what those equations might be.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the absence of equations in the original post, which may be necessary for further analysis. There is an acknowledgment of the complexity introduced by the changing mass of the Sun and its effects on the gravitational dynamics of the Earth’s orbit.

Rwindsor1
Messages
6
Reaction score
0

Homework Statement


Consider the Earth's orbit around the sun orbit as circular. Suppose the sun slowly loses mass from mass M1 to mass M2. Suppose that the initial orbit is R1 and the final orbit is R2. Express R2 in terms of the other parameters.
2. The attempt at a solution
The problem I'm having here is relating the two equations for the gravitational force initially and finally. I can't think what is conserved in this situation. The final answer is supposed to be M1R1/M2. Looks like something to do with moments but I can't figure out what.
 
Last edited:
Physics news on Phys.org
Rwindsor1 said:
I can't think what is conserved in this situation.
Are there any unbalanced external torques?
The final answer is supposed to be M1R1/R2.
You seem to have mis-quoted the answer.
 
jbriggs444 said:
Are there any unbalanced external torques?

You seem to have mis-quoted the answer.

Apologies, corrected now. And I don't believe there is, but when I tried moments I was always left with one too many variables to solve the equation
 
Rwindsor1 said:
Apologies, corrected now. And I don't believe there is, but when I tried moments I was always left with one too many variables to solve the equation
If you have too many variables then likely you need more equations. But you have not shown any equations. There was a place on the homework template for them.
 
jbriggs444 said:
If you have too many variables then likely you need more equations. But you have not shown any equations. There was a place on the homework template for them.
This is what I meant by I feel there is something else that must be conserved. I know I need another equation, I just don't know what that is.
 
Rwindsor1 said:
This is what I meant by I feel there is something else that must be conserved. I know I need another equation, I just don't know what that is.
Something else? What thing have you decided is conserved so far?
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 15 ·
Replies
15
Views
2K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
2K
  • · Replies 6 ·
Replies
6
Views
2K
  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
2K
Replies
5
Views
3K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
2K
Replies
3
Views
3K
  • · Replies 7 ·
Replies
7
Views
4K
  • · Replies 10 ·
Replies
10
Views
2K
  • · Replies 6 ·
Replies
6
Views
2K