Changing undergrad. course in University

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the challenges and possibilities of changing undergraduate courses, specifically from engineering to physics, at universities in the UK and Canada. Participants share their experiences and insights regarding course capacity, switching policies, and enrollment processes.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested
  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses concern about switching from engineering to physics at Imperial, noting that physics is reportedly full and inquires about the likelihood of making such a change.
  • Another participant shares that Canadian universities typically allow students to switch courses or degrees at the beginning of the academic year, provided there is space available.
  • Some participants question the validity of the claim that physics is full, citing previous admission ratios and the difficulty of changing disciplines after the first few weeks at Imperial.
  • There is a discussion about the estimated number of first-year physics places at Imperial, with one participant suggesting that facilities may limit the number of students accommodated.
  • Further insights are shared about the Canadian system, where students often choose their major in the second year, allowing time for reconsideration of their options.
  • One participant describes their experience at the University of Toronto, explaining that while students must declare a program, there is flexibility in course selection during the first year, which may allow for transitions into physics later on.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the situation at Imperial regarding course capacity and switching policies. There are multiple competing views on the feasibility of changing courses and the implications of enrollment limits.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention varying policies between UK and Canadian universities, highlighting differences in how and when students can declare majors or switch courses. There are also references to specific institutional practices that may not be universally applicable.

Who May Find This Useful

Students considering a change in their undergraduate course, particularly those interested in physics or engineering, as well as those exploring university policies in the UK and Canada.

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I'm currently an A2 student in the UK and I've received conditional offers from all my universities already. I originally wanted to do engineering but wants to do physics now, I emailed Imperial but they said Physics is full already but I can email them again once A-level results come out. How big of a chance can I switch course?

Even if they won't let me switch in the summer holiday, but if I'm accepted to engineering, will I be able to change course once the academic year has started??
 
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Not sure about the UK, but as far as Canadian Universities go you can switch to a different course or even degree during the beginning of the year. So long as there is space and that usually happens within the first week.

Also here they make us choose our degree in second year so as to give us some time to rethink our options. BTW, I would suggest you go to the physics courses even if your not enrolled within them, but just in case you do get in so your not left far behind.
 
Physics is full? They have to be lying.
 
Poop-Loops said:
Physics is full? They have to be lying.

Last year, Imperial had a 1:5 ratio for placement:applicant.

I know that at Imperial it is very difficult (after 1st 3weeks or so) to completely change disciplines ie going from Engineering to Physics, but there is more of a give between the various physics courses ie between Physics and Theoretical Phy.

I would say that your best option would be to try to get on the Physics course before you arrive at Imperial. It will be difficult as there are only ~250 places for first year Physics courses there.
 
when you say there are only 250 places in first year, do you mean that the number of places increases with every year or they decrease?
 
That is just a rough estimate for each year. It's how many is in my year (current 1st yr), and I don't believe that they're able to accommodate for more students, facilities-wise. The general lecture theatre that houses lectures that all first years take is at full capacity (when everyone attends!).
I wouldn't be able to advise you exactly on numbers for he next academic year, you're best inquiring yourself. When I was applying, they were very helpful in their replies to my emails.
 
BioCore said:
Not sure about the UK, but as far as Canadian Universities go you can switch to a different course or even degree during the beginning of the year. So long as there is space and that usually happens within the first week.

Also here they make us choose our degree in second year so as to give us some time to rethink our options. BTW, I would suggest you go to the physics courses even if your not enrolled within them, but just in case you do get in so your not left far behind.

Not sure which school you go to, but most schools in Canada make you choose your major when entering. Places like UManitoba don't as they implement U1, but this is unusual.
 
CaptainQuaser said:
Not sure which school you go to, but most schools in Canada make you choose your major when entering. Places like UManitoba don't as they implement U1, but this is unusual.

Well I go to UofT. What they do here though is that they do force you to choose a Program (ex. Life Sci.) and a degree like Molecular Biology, but usually during first year the courses are very general when it comes to degrees within Life Science. So what they do is they get a rough estimate as to how many people are entering the degree, but they always allow for changes as you are forced to officially declare your degree by second year.

What is even more interesting is that you could enter into First year Life Science, do courses that are need for physics and then enter into a physics program as far as I am aware. I have seen people do this because they noticed Life Science wasn't really something they wanted to do. But this is usually harder to do since most courses have enrollment controls.
 

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