Characteristics of MOSFET: How Does i_{DS} Vary with v_{GS} in the ON State?

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The discussion revolves around the characteristics of a specific type of MOSFET, particularly how the drain-source current (i_{DS}) varies with the gate-source voltage (v_{GS}) when the MOSFET is in the ON state. Participants explore the implications of using the switch-resistor model and the conditions under which the MOSFET operates, including the definitions of saturation and linear regions.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes that for v_{GS} < V_{T}, i_{DS} = 0, but is uncertain about the behavior for v_{GS} ≥ V_{T} and questions how i_{DS} varies with v_{GS} in this range.
  • Another participant suggests that to graph i_{DS} versus v_{GS}, one needs to consider the equations for i as a function of both V_{DS} and V_{GS}, proposing a family of curves for different values of v_{GS}.
  • A participant mentions the need to assume that V_{DS} is large enough to saturate the MOSFET to obtain a single value of i_{DS} for a specific v_{GS}.
  • There is a discussion about the terminology of saturation versus linear regions, with one participant clarifying that the linear region is where i_{DS} decreases with V_{DS} for a given v_{GS}.
  • Another participant emphasizes that the plot needed is i versus V_{DS} for various values of v_{GS}, indicating that i/V_{DS} is approximately constant and varies only with v_{GS}.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the definitions of saturation and linear regions, and there is no consensus on how to graph i_{DS} versus v_{GS} in the ON state. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the specific behavior of i_{DS} as a function of v_{GS}.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference the switch-resistor model and the square law equations, but there is uncertainty about the applicability of the square law model based on the textbook being used. The discussion highlights the complexity of defining operational regions for the MOSFET.

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Homework Statement



A specific type of MOSFET has V_T = -1\ \rm V. The MOSFET is in the ON state when v_{GS} \geq V_T. The MOSFET is in the OFF state when v_{GS} &lt; V_T.
a) Graph the i_{DS} versus v_{GS} characteristics of this MOSFET.

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The Attempt at a Solution



My doubt concerns part a. I will use the switch-resistor (SR) model (the ON state of the MOSFET is modeled as a resistance R_{ON} between the drain and the source). So, the graph of i_{DS} versus v_{GS} would have i_{DS} = 0 for all v_{GS} &lt; V_{T}.
But what about the case where v_{GS} \geq v_T? The problem is that I don't know how i_{DS} varies as a function of v_{GS}.
I know that i_{DS} = \dfrac{v_{DS}}{R_{ON}}; if this value doesn't vary with v_{GS}, then, for v_{GS} \geq v_T the graph would have just a horizontal line with y-value i_{DS} = \dfrac{v_{DS}}{R_{ON}}.
What am I missing?
 
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pc2-brazil said:

Homework Statement



A specific type of MOSFET has V_T = -1\ \rm V. The MOSFET is in the ON state when v_{GS} \geq V_T. The MOSFET is in the OFF state when v_{GS} &lt; V_T.
a) Graph the i_{DS} versus v_{GS} characteristics of this MOSFET.

Homework Equations



The Attempt at a Solution



My doubt concerns part a. I will use the switch-resistor (SR) model (the ON state of the MOSFET is modeled as a resistance R_{ON} between the drain and the source). So, the graph of i_{DS} versus v_{GS} would have i_{DS} = 0 for all v_{GS} &lt; V_{T}.
But what about the case where v_{GS} \geq v_T? The problem is that I don't know how i_{DS} varies as a function of v_{GS}.
I know that i_{DS} = \dfrac{v_{DS}}{R_{ON}}; if this value doesn't vary with v_{GS}, then, for v_{GS} \geq v_T the graph would have just a horizontal line with y-value i_{DS} = \dfrac{v_{DS}}{R_{ON}}.
What am I missing?

You need the equations for i as a function of Vds and Vgs. The most common way is to graph i vs. Vds so you'll have a family of curves, one for each Vgs where usually Vgs varies from 0 to some max. number like 10V in 2V increments (i.e. 6 curves). The Vgs = 0 curve is of course the i = 0 axis.

There are three regions of operation for the MOSFET. I am attaching a pdf file for you. Use the "square law" equations at the top of page 1 and assume μCoxW/L and VT are constants. VT = 1V in your case. A typical value for μCoxW/L might be 0.025 A/V2.
 

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rude man said:
You need the equations for i as a function of Vds and Vgs. The most common way is to graph i vs. Vds so you'll have a family of curves, one for each Vgs where usually Vgs varies from 0 to some max. number like 10V in 2V increments (i.e. 6 curves). The Vgs = 0 curve is of course the i = 0 axis.

There are three regions of operation for the MOSFET. I am attaching a pdf file for you. Use the "square law" equations at the top of page 1 and assume μCoxW/L and VT are constants. VT = 1V in your case. A typical value for μCoxW/L might be 0.025 A/V2.

Thank you for the help, but, actually, the book I'm using doesn't present the square law model in the chapter where it asks this problem. So, I think I should be able to graph the approximate behavior of the MOSFET only by using the SR model (the MOSFET acts like a resistor R_{ON} in its ON state, for sufficiently small values of V_{GS}).

By the way, the book is "Foundations of Analog and Digital Circuits" by Agarwal and Lang. This problem is from Chapter 6.
 
To get a single value of IDS for specific VGS, I think you have to assume that VDS is large enough to saturate the MOSFET.
 
mfb said:
To get a single value of IDS for specific VGS, I think you have to assume that VDS is large enough to saturate the MOSFET.

What exactly do you mean by saturating the MOSFET?

In this situation, would I have a single value of i_{DS} = \dfrac{v_{DS}}{R_{ON}} for v_{GS} \geq V_T, which would then be plotted as a horizontal line in the i_{DS} versus v_{GS} graph?
 
pc2-brazil said:
What exactly do you mean by saturating the MOSFET?

In this situation, would I have a single value of i_{DS} = \dfrac{v_{DS}}{R_{ON}} for v_{GS} \geq V_T, which would then be plotted as a horizontal line in the i_{DS} versus v_{GS} graph?

On the contrary, I think what's intended here is not the saturated region but the 'linear' region. (The saturated region is when Vsd > (Vgs + VT). In that region, increasing Vds does not materially affect i if Vgs is held constant). The linear region is where i decreases with Vds for a given Vgs.

It's confusing nomenclature since the linear region is where the device is used as an on/off switch, which is thought of as the device being "saturated". I.e. Vds is about as low as it can go which is what you want when the device is "on". It's 'saturated' in the sense of minimum Vds which also implies minimum Ron.

The plot you need is i vs. Vds for various values of Vgs. For each value of Vgs, the value of i/Vds is approximately constant & varies only with Vgs. These values of i/Vds = 1/Ron. You will find that i/Vds increases as Vgs increases.

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