Charge Distribution from Known Potential - Induced on Surface of Metal Sphere

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The discussion revolves around calculating the induced surface charge density on a grounded conducting sphere due to a point charge "q" located inside it. The potential is expressed as a function of radial distance "r" and angle "theta", with the formula provided for potential being crucial for deriving the surface charge density. The correct approach to find the surface charge density involves using the relationship between the electric field and potential, specifically applying the equation σ = -ε₀(∂Φ/∂r) at the surface of the sphere (r = a). The participants emphasize the importance of understanding the boundary conditions of the electric field as it interacts with the charged surface.

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Homework Statement



Using the method of images: discuss the problem of a point-charge “q” inside a hollow, grounded, conducting-sphere-shell of inner radius “a”. That charge "q" is located at {\left| {{{{\bf{\vec r}}}_0}} \right|}. We don't care about its angular position. Oh yes: the problem is two dimensional: as you will see, potential is termed as r, theta dependent.

(b) Find the induced surface-charge density. The potential is known to be:
\Phi (r,\theta ) = \frac{q}{{4\pi {\varepsilon _0}}}\left( {\frac{1}{{\sqrt {{r^2} + {{\left| {{{{\bf{\vec r}}}_0}} \right|}^2} - 2r\left| {{{{\bf{\vec r}}}_0}} \right|\cos \theta } }} - \frac{a}{{\sqrt {{r^2}{{\left| {{{{\bf{\vec r}}}_0}} \right|}^2} + {a^4} - 2r\left| {{{{\bf{\vec r}}}_0}} \right|{a^2}\cos \theta } }}} \right)

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Surface charge density: it’s derived from integral Gauss’s Law:
\int {{\bf{\vec E}} \bullet d{\bf{\vec A}}} = \frac{Q}{{{\varepsilon _0}}}{\rm{ }} \to {\rm{ }}{\bf{\vec E}}(r,\theta ) = \frac{Q}{{{\varepsilon _0}\int {d{\bf{\vec A}}} }} = \frac{{\sigma (r,\theta )}}{{{\varepsilon _0}}} [I.2]

And: curl-less-ness of electric field:
{\bf{\vec E}} = - \vec \nabla \Phi [I.3]

Then: [I.2] and [I.3] give the surface-charge density as a function of the potential we derived as:
\sigma = - {\varepsilon _0}\left| {\vec \nabla \Phi } \right|

The spherical gradient operator reduced to polar coordinates:
\vec \nabla = {\bf{\hat r}}\frac{\partial }{{\partial r}} + \hat \theta \frac{1}{r}\frac{\partial }{{\partial \theta }}

Umm…I feel like I’m doing this really wrong. Never have I needed to use the "theta-hat" in computation…only in conceptually grasping the field of a dipole.

Then: someone tells me to use:
\sigma = {\left. {{\varepsilon _0}\frac{{\partial \Phi (r,\theta )}}{{\partial r}}} \right|_{r = a}}

But I disagree: neither the charge distribution nor the potential are symmetric in "theta". Surely: as you "tilt through theta" away from the charge hovering outside the metal sphere: the charge will go from positive to negative when you've gone from theta = 0 (right under the charge) to theta = pi (on the opposite pole of the metal-sphere, away from the charge)?
 
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bjnartowt said:
Surface charge density: it’s derived from integral Gauss’s Law:
\int {{\bf{\vec E}} \bullet d{\bf{\vec A}}} = \frac{Q}{{{\varepsilon _0}}}{\rm{ }} \to {\rm{ }}{\bf{\vec E}}(r,\theta ) = \frac{Q}{{{\varepsilon _0}\int {d{\bf{\vec A}}} }} = \frac{{\sigma (r,\theta )}}{{{\varepsilon _0}}} [I.2]

No, \int\textbf{E}\cdot d\textbf{A} = \textbf{E}\cdot\int d\textbf{A} not \textbf{E}\int d\textbf{A}, and only in the case where \textbf{E} is uniform/constant over the surface. And, \textbf{a}\cdot\textbf{b}= c does not mean that \textbf{a}=\frac{c}{\textbf{b}}

Then: someone tells me to use:
\sigma = {\left. {{\varepsilon _0}\frac{{\partial \Phi (r,\theta )}}{{\partial r}}} \right|_{r = a}}

But I disagree: neither the charge distribution nor the potential are symmetric in "theta". Surely: as you "tilt through theta" away from the charge hovering outside the metal sphere: the charge will go from positive to negative when you've gone from theta = 0 (right under the charge) to theta = pi (on the opposite pole of the metal-sphere, away from the charge)?

"someone" is correct. The equation comes from the boundary conditions on the \textbf{E}-field as it crosses a surface. The component of the normal \textbf{E}-field that is perpendicular to the surface will be discontinuous by an amount \frac{\sigma}{\epsilon_{0}} (this is likely derived in your textbook directly from Gauss' Law, and I strongly recommend you read that section of your text).
 
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I think I see it. The field discontinuity across a charged surface is:
{{\bf{\vec E}}_{above}} - {{\bf{\vec E}}_{below}} = \sigma /{\varepsilon _0}

...in which you use the field/potential relation:
{\bf{\vec E}} = - {\mathop{\rm grad}\nolimits} (\Phi )

...to get what "someone" told me:
\sigma = - {\varepsilon _0}\frac{{\partial \Phi }}{{\partial r}}

...and I'm just the short distance of "plug-n'-chug" away from a possibly-correct charge density. No?
 

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