ChatGPT Facilitating Insanity

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The discussion revolves around the psychological impacts of AI chatbots, particularly focusing on their potential to influence mental health and societal behavior. Participants explore various incidents where interactions with AI have led to severe consequences, including suicidal ideation and the perception of reality. The conversation touches on themes of AI-induced delusions, societal norms, and the role of media in shaping these experiences.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants reference articles discussing cases where individuals experienced severe mental health crises after engaging with AI, suggesting a link between AI interactions and psychological distress.
  • Others propose that the conversational nature of AI, which mimics human interaction, may lead users to perceive AI outputs as indistinguishable from real human responses, potentially exacerbating mental health issues.
  • Several participants express concerns about societal delusions, arguing that if a belief becomes widespread, individuals may feel compelled to conform, regardless of its rationality.
  • There are mentions of specific incidents reported in the media, including cases of suicide linked to chatbot interactions, raising questions about the responsibility of AI developers.
  • Some participants discuss the concept of AI-induced dehumanization, suggesting that attributing human-like qualities to AI can diminish the perceived humanness of real people.
  • There is a suggestion that research organizations should collect detailed data on these cases to understand the psychological effects of AI interactions better.
  • Concerns are raised about the role of social media in perpetuating mass hysteria and how AI could contribute to this phenomenon.
  • Participants note that societal engagement with AI and social media may lead to a normalization of irrational beliefs or behaviors.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views on the impact of AI on mental health and societal behavior, with no clear consensus on the extent or nature of these effects. Some agree on the potential dangers of AI interactions, while others emphasize the need for further investigation and understanding.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the complexity of attributing psychological effects to AI interactions, noting the need for careful investigation into individual cases and the influence of societal factors. The discussion reflects a variety of assumptions and interpretations regarding the relationship between AI, mental health, and societal norms.

  • #31
erobz said:
While we are on the is "ChatGPT driving people insane", is it placating me with a proof for the impossibility of a Christian heaven outside of a complete lack of consciousness (the void - absolute nothingness). Did I actually come up with something that has some avenues to pursue, or is there a logical hole I'm missing for the counter argument - that a Christian heaven could exist and be internally consistent?
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Btw. ChatGPT took that mess of a statement I made and interpreted it with ease! I think it deserves a round of applause!
Gad, what AI sycophancy. Well, consenting adults and all that.

They taught me Christian heaven but six year old me didn't believe it. I felt it was illogical.

I read in maybe 2018 that a poll showed that more US citizens believe in reincarnation than in Christian theology.
 
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  • #32
Hornbein said:
Gad, what AI sycophancy. Well, consenting adults and all that.

You are saying I'm an AI sycophant...meaning my proof is not sound and I'm being led?
Hornbein said:
They taught me Christian heaven but six year old me didn't believe it. I felt it was illogical.
So did I, and I questioned the priest publicly... But I feel the route I took here has logical potential to "put it to bed".
Hornbein said:
I read in maybe 2018 that a poll showed that more US citizens believe in reincarnation than in Christian theology.
So in otherwards, most people believe in an eternal hell...
 
  • #33
erobz said:
s iYou are saying I'm an AI sycophant...meaning my proof is not sound and I'm being led?
You are the target of the AI's sycophantcy. You are a sycophantee. Sycophantcy is flattery. It's a technique, a style. It has nothing to do with whether that argument is correct. Maybe it is, maybe it isn't.

I have used ChatGPT. I'm told you can ask it to stop its flattery. I didn't ask this so I'm a willing sycophantee.

All I use it for is computer programming. ChatG is unreliable, but in the case of computer programming it is a great help, a huge difference. But programming has the special character that I can test what it produces immediately and throw it out immediately if it's wrong. Otherwise it burned me enough that I have no trust in what it says so other than programming I never read what any AI writes.
 
  • #34
Ivan Seeking said:
80% of Gen Zers say they would marry an AI

Well, for me the question "Would you marry an AI?", asked randomly on the street or by phone, sounds stupid. I guess for a lot of young people from GenZ it does too. Stupid question, stupid answer.

In the meantime, I used ChatGPT zero times. And I'm not willing to change that.
 
  • #35
weirdoguy said:
Well, for me the question "Would you marry an AI?", asked randomly on the street or by phone, sounds stupid. I guess for a lot of young people from GenZ it does too. Stupid question, stupid answer.

In the meantime, I used ChatGPT zero times. And I'm not willing to change that.
Just because the result was stated as such, that doesn't mean the data was derived with such a simple question. The results are disputed but there doesn't seem to be peer-reviewed data. By all accounts I saw the result is non zero.

Either way, the idea that technology is driving humans apart more and more is undeniable. I know of young people who won't even answer the phone. They only like to communicate by text. And there are plenty of young men and women out there who are well into their 20s and have never been on a real date. One study (supported by other studies as well) suggests about 30%-45% of young men have never asked someone out.

Constant solitude and loneliness isn't going to lead to mentally healthy people. And we also know depression is a huge problem with young folks.
 
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  • #36
Ivan Seeking said:
I know of young people who won't even answer the phone. They only like to communicate by text

It's OT, sorry,but:
I'm 35 and exact same way xD I mean, I'll answer if I have to, but I hate it. Always did, because I was a very shy kid, now I'm not, but still it makes me stressed.

But of course you are right about depression and loneliness.
 

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