Check if the complex function is differentiable

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The discussion revolves around determining the differentiability of a complex function defined as w=z |z|, where z is expressed in terms of its real and imaginary components. Participants are analyzing the function using the Cauchy-Riemann equations and exploring the implications of evaluating limits at the origin.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants are attempting to apply the Cauchy-Riemann equations to check differentiability and are questioning the validity of their results at the point (0,0). Some are considering the implications of division by zero in their calculations.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants offering different perspectives on the differentiability of the function at z=0. Some suggest evaluating limits along different paths, while others express uncertainty regarding the applicability of the Cauchy-Riemann equations at that point.

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There is a noted concern about the indeterminate form encountered when substituting values at the origin, as well as the potential implications of undefined partial derivatives in the context of complex analysis.

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The question is to check where the following complex function is differentiable.

w=z \left| z\right|



w=\sqrt{x^2+y^2} (x+i y)


u = x\sqrt{x^2+y^2}
v = y\sqrt{x^2+y^2}
Using the Cauchy Riemann equations

\frac{\partial }{\partial x}u=\frac{\partial }{\partial y}v
\frac{\partial }{\partial y}u=-\frac{\partial }{\partial x}v


my results:

\frac{x^2}{\sqrt{x^2+y^2}}=\frac{y^2}{\sqrt{x^2+y^2}}
\frac{x y}{\sqrt{x^2+y^2}}=0


solutions says that it's differentiable at (0,0). But doesn't it blow at (0,0)?
 
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If you just plug in ##y=0## and ##x=0## you will get an indeterminate form which is meaningless. If you evaluate the limits, I think that you get all expressions equal to ##0##, but double check that.
 
Division by zero is not allowed in complex analysis, so your final equations are not defined at x=y=0. They are not equal.
 
FactChecker said:
Division by zero is not allowed in complex analysis, so your final equations are not defined at x=y=0. They are not equal.

That is true, but this function is differentiable at ##z=0##. If you evaluate the two limits along the real and imaginary axes (with ##h\in\mathbb{R}##)

<br /> \displaystyle\lim_{h\rightarrow0}\displaystyle\frac{(0+0i+h)\left|(0+0i+h)\right|}{h}=0<br />


<br /> \displaystyle\lim_{h\rightarrow0}\displaystyle\frac{(0+0i+ih)\left|(0+0i+ih)\right|}{ih}=0<br />

So the function is differentiable at ##0##. I don't remember enough from my complex analysis course (which had a number of students who had not taken real analysis, so it was a bit less rigorous than some courses) to reconcile this. My recollection is that the limits of the Cauchy-Riemann equations could be evaluated, but a quick look online showed that my recollection was incorrect. Perhaps, since the partial derivatives are undefined at 0 the Cauchy-Riemann equations are not applicable?
 
DrewD said:
That is true, but this function is differentiable at ##z=0##. If you evaluate the two limits along the real and imaginary axes (with ##h\in\mathbb{R}##)

<br /> \displaystyle\lim_{h\rightarrow0}\displaystyle\frac{(0+0i+h)\left|(0+0i+h)\right|}{h}=0<br />


<br /> \displaystyle\lim_{h\rightarrow0}\displaystyle\frac{(0+0i+ih)\left|(0+0i+ih)\right|}{ih}=0<br />

So the function is differentiable at ##0##. I don't remember enough from my complex analysis course (which had a number of students who had not taken real analysis, so it was a bit less rigorous than some courses) to reconcile this. My recollection is that the limits of the Cauchy-Riemann equations could be evaluated, but a quick look online showed that my recollection was incorrect. Perhaps, since the partial derivatives are undefined at 0 the Cauchy-Riemann equations are not applicable?

I would use the definition of the derivative as a difference quotient to show it's differentiable at z=0.
 
Yes, but ##w(0)=0##, so I left it out.
 
DrewD said:
Yes, but ##w(0)=0##, so I left it out.

Sure, I'm just saying there is no need work along any particular axes. The complex derivative f'(0) is defined by the limit |h|->0 of (f(0+h)-f(0))/h where h is complex. You can also conclude that that is zero.
 

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