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The discussion revolves around calculating the power output of an electric heater used to warm a 0.25 kg piece of ice from -30°C to -10°C over a period of 150 seconds. Participants are analyzing the application of the formula Q=mcΔt and the subsequent calculation of power using p=w/Δt.

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  • Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the correct application of the temperature change in the specific heat formula, questioning the order of temperatures used in calculations. There are inquiries about the units and values applied for specific heat and latent heat. Some participants express confusion regarding negative values in their results and seek clarification on arithmetic operations.

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Multiple interpretations of the calculations are being explored, with participants providing feedback on each other's attempts. Some guidance has been offered regarding the correct use of temperature differences and the importance of units in calculations. There is an ongoing effort to clarify misunderstandings and correct errors in the calculations.

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Participants are working under the constraints of homework rules, which may limit the amount of direct assistance they can provide. There is a focus on ensuring that the calculations align with the principles of thermodynamics and specific heat capacity.

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Homework Statement



a 0.25 kg piece of ice at -30°C is warmed by an electric heater and the following graph of temperature is produced.
-use the information on the graph to determine the power output of the heater

the graph shows that the ice went from -30degC to -10 degC in 150s

Homework Equations


Q=mcΔt
p=w/Δt

The Attempt at a Solution


Q=mcΔt
=(0.25)(3.3*105)((-30)-(-20))
=82500*(-20)
1.65*106

should this be negative?

p=w/Δt
=1.65*106/150
=11000
 
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You don't use units in your calculations, so they're hard to check.

When doing calculations on the rise in temperature of a substance, you want to subtract the colder temp. from the hotter temp.

Which is colder, -30 °C or -10 °C ?
(also, you have a typo in the temperatures used in your calculation of Q.

What is 3.3×105 ? This doesn't seem to be the heat capacity of ice.
 
SteamKing said:
You don't use units in your calculations, so they're hard to check.

When doing calculations on the rise in temperature of a substance, you want to subtract the colder temp. from the hotter temp.

Which is colder, -30 °C or -10 °C ?
(also, you have a typo in the temperatures used in your calculation of Q.

What is 3.3×105 ? This doesn't seem to be the heat capacity of ice.

3.3*105 is the latent heat of fusion for water that I've been given, now i see where i may have messed up.
 
MaryBarnes said:

Homework Statement



a 0.25 kg piece of ice at -30°C is warmed by an electric heater and the following graph of temperature is produced.
-use the information on the graph to determine the power output of the heater

the graph shows that the ice went from -30degC to -10 degC in 150s

Homework Equations


Q=mcΔt
p=w/Δt

The Attempt at a Solution


Q=mcΔt
=(0.25)(3.3*105)((-30)-(-20))
=82500*(-20)
1.65*106

should this be negative?
The value you've used for the specific heat of ice looks odd to me. Where did it come from and what are the units?
Note that the temperature change was positive, rising from -30C up to -20C. You've got the order of the temperatures reversed. You should have ΔT = Tfinal - Tinitial
p=w/Δt
=1.65*106/150
=11000
You might want to use different variable names for the change in time and change in temperature. It is common to use upper case T for temperatures and lower case t for times.

[Edit: I see that Steam King beat me to it. I'll leave it to him]
 
im going to retry my answer. will post shortly
 
=0.25kg*2100J/(kg °c)*((-10°C) - (-30) °C)
=525*20°C
=10500J

P=10500J/150s
=70w

is this ok?
 
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MaryBarnes said:
=0.25kg*2100J/(kg °c)*((-10°C) - (-30) °C)
=525*(-20)
=-10500J

P=10500J/150s
=70w

is this ok?

-10 - (-30) is how much? This is a simple problem in arithmetic.
 
SteamKing said:
-10 - (-30) is how much? This is a simple problem in arithmetic.

its 20, but my answer has a negative. i was going to edit it but don't know how to
 
MaryBarnes said:
its 20, but my answer has a negative. i was going to edit it but don't know how to
Just hit the edit button in the lower left hand corner.
 
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SteamKing said:
Just hit the edit button in the lower left hand corner.
I see now. Thanks!
 

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