[Chemistry Q] Ionic Strength of a solution

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The discussion revolves around the calculation of ionic strength in solutions containing different concentrations of ionic compounds. Participants explore whether the ionic strength is affected by the composition and concentration of ions in the solutions presented.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions if ionic strength depends on the composition of the solution, providing two example solutions with different volumes and concentrations of NaCl and CaCl.
  • Another participant asserts that ionic strength does not depend on the amounts of ions present, claiming both solutions have the same ionic strength of 0.3.
  • A third participant corrects a previous statement, indicating that the formula for ionic strength must account for the correct chemical formula of calcium chloride (CaCl2) and that the concentrations of ions change upon mixing, suggesting that the ionic strengths of the two solutions are different.
  • A later reply acknowledges a mistake and expresses gratitude for the clarification regarding the calculations.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express disagreement regarding the impact of composition on ionic strength, with some asserting that it does not matter while others argue that it does. The discussion remains unresolved as different viewpoints are presented without consensus.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the importance of considering the correct chemical formulas and the changes in ion concentrations due to mixing, indicating that assumptions about the solutions' compositions may lead to incorrect conclusions.

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I got confused in dealing with ionic strength.

Homework Statement



In calculating ionic strength, do we consider the composition of the solution?

Take for example:

Solution 1 has
20 ml of 0.1 M NaCl and 35ml of 0.2 M CaCl

Solution 2 has
25 ml of 0.1 M NaCl and 30 ml of 0.2 M CaCl

Would the ionic strength be different for the two or be the same?
In other words, does ionic strength depends on the composition?

Homework Equations



Ionic Strength:
I = 0.5*sum(c*z^2)

The Attempt at a Solution



Ionic Strength:
I = 0.5*sum(c*z^2)
I = 0.5*(0.1*(+1)^2+0.2*(+1)^2+0.1*(-1)^2+0.…
I = 0.5*(0.6)
I = 0.3

So, are the two solutions going to have an ionic of 0.3 or would they have different ionic strengths?

Thanks in advance.
 
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I just realize that it doesn't depend on that issue. It's the matter of whether the ions are present or not. Since they have the same ions present in their solution, regardless of how much of the ions are present or regardless of their different amount in each solution, the ionic strength are the same. The ionic strength for solution 1 and solution 2 both have the value of 0.3.
 
Remu said:
In calculating ionic strength, do we consider the composition of the solution?

Yes.

20 ml of 0.1 M NaCl and 35ml of 0.2 M CaCl

No such thing as CaCl, perhaps you mean CaCl2.

Ionic Strength:
I = 0.5*sum(c*z^2)

Good, more texy:

I = \frac 1 2 \sum c_i z_i^2

I = 0.5*(0.1*(+1)^2+0.2*(+1)^2+0.1*(-1)^2+0.…

You forgot that concentrations of ions after mixing have changed - for example concentration of Na+ is now 0.036M, that's because of the volume change.

Remu said:
I just realize that it doesn't depend on that issue. It's the matter of whether the ions are present or not. Since they have the same ions present in their solution, regardless of how much of the ions are present or regardless of their different amount in each solution, the ionic strength are the same. The ionic strength for solution 1 and solution 2 both have the value of 0.3.

No, you got it completely wrong - composition matters, concentrations matter, charges matter, neither of these solutions have ionic strength of 0.3 and their ionic strengths are different. Try to calculate using correct formula for CaCl2 and taking dilutions into account.

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I see my mistake!
Thanks for clarifying!
 

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