Christopher Hitchens has died (1949-2011)

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The discussion centers around the death of Christopher Hitchens, reflecting on his impact as a writer, speaker, and cultural critic. Participants share their thoughts on his contributions to public discourse, his views on religion, and the nature of political debate.

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  • Some participants express sadness over Hitchens' passing, noting he will be missed for his insightful commentary and debates.
  • Others highlight Hitchens' confrontational style and his strong anti-religious stance, suggesting he viewed religion as a source of hatred.
  • A few participants compare Hitchens to William F. Buckley, emphasizing their shared ability to provoke thought and engage in meaningful discourse, regardless of agreement.
  • Some contributions mention Hitchens' influence as a journalist and author, noting his willingness to challenge prevailing views and engage with opposing perspectives.
  • One participant reflects on the nature of political discourse and the difficulty of considering differing viewpoints in a polarized environment.
  • There are questions about the implications of Hitchens' atheism and the concept of "rest in peace," with some expressing uncertainty about the meaning of peace in the absence of a higher power.
  • Several participants share links to Hitchens' interviews and debates, indicating a desire to revisit his work and ideas.

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Participants generally agree on the significance of Hitchens' contributions and express admiration for his intellect and debating skills. However, there are varying opinions on his views regarding religion and the implications of his atheism, indicating that multiple competing views remain.

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Some discussions touch on the limitations of understanding Hitchens' perspectives without considering the broader context of his arguments and the complexities of political and religious discourse.

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He was a great man. I may not have always agreed with what he said, but I have so much respect for him.

He will be missed indeed.
 
Such a loss. Agree or disagree? At least you'd have to consider his words and the thoughts behind them. I was so sad at the loss of WFBuckley, not because I could always agree with him, but because I could always consider his point of view and tease out the reasons WHY I might agree or disagree. Not an easy thing to do these days (or even back then) when politics and political discourse can be so polarized.
 
Christopher Hitchens passes away :(

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Sad news Christopher Hitchens finally passed away from his cancer. :(


http://www.npr.org/2011/12/16/143595854/writer-christopher-hitchens-dies


The influential writer and cultural critic Christopher Hitchens died on Thursday at the age of 62 from complications of cancer of the esophagus. Hitchens confronted his disease in part by writing, bringing the same unsparing insight to his mortality that he had directed at so many other subjects.
 
Who was he?
 
pergradus said:
Who was he?

He was a prominent anti-theist. Somewhat well known for his political backing of the Iraq Invasion.

He spoke out strongly against religion and claimed that it was a primary source for hatred in the world. He was quite a stubborn and confrontational man, but those who knew him well speak very highly of his honour and compassion.

Great speaker, even better writer. A google search last week would have turned up a much better answer to your question...now you'll just get a bunch of stuff about his death.

EDIT: Here is a debate with Hitchens and Steven Fry facing off against two theists, a British MP, and a Cardinal of the church I believe. -
This one was fun to watch but Hitchen's and Fry's opponents were outclassed.
 
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pergradus said:
Who was he?
He was a prominent journalist, author and speaker on current affairs. He was very confrontational and didn't mind who he offended, he was anti-religion, anti-totalitarianism and above all wanted democracy for all.

Begin here; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Hitchens
 
I'll really miss his commentary. I enjoy listening to his debates.
 
Greg Bernhardt said:
I'll really miss his commentary. I enjoy listening to his debates.
I'd hate to be on the other side of the stage in his debates. That's why I compare his loss to William F. Buckley. Not just quick-witted, but well-informed, thoughtful and insightful. You might agree or disagree with him, but you'd be ill-advised to ignore his reasoning.
 
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R.I.P.

strange... when I type just the above, it forces the i and p lower case. But when I add stuff, it sticks uppercase.
 
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I always found it amazing that he was able to tolerate the rubbish that was put to him in debates. He treated unreason with courtesy far beyond its deserves.
 
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He died on the day Iraq war was officially ended.
 
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Pythagorean said:
R.I.P.

strange... when I type just the above, it forces the i and p lower case. But when I add stuff, it sticks uppercase.

yeah, it's the anti-yelling filter. It's ok to whisper a whole post, though.

RIP Hitch!
 
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A couple of Hitchens videos:
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turbo said:
Such a loss. Agree or disagree?
Agree. Courageous man.
 
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Pythagorean said:
R.I.P.

strange... when I type just the above, it forces the i and p lower case. But when I add stuff, it sticks uppercase.

Hi.
He spoke out strongly against religion and claimed that it was a primary source for hatred in the world.

He may well be right on in stating this. I agree with him.
But a person who does not have a higher power does not Rest in peace. What Rest? Where is the in? And as much as I would want this for everyone, what peace? More like gone and will be missed.
 
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What's it called when people take a figure of speech literally? I've always wondered this.
 
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turbo said:
I was so sad at the loss of WFBuckley, not because I could always agree with him, but because I could always consider his point of view and tease out the reasons WHY I might agree or disagree.
I liked Buckley and Hitchens mainly because of their styles. They had the 'gift of phrase', so to speak. But I feel sure that that ability also required a lot of concentrated study and thought. I especially liked Hitchens because of his atheism and some of his straightforward and yet eloquent arguments following an assumption of the existence of the Christian God, which make clear, imo, the absurdity of assuming the existence of such an entity in the first place. As well as his statements regarding the self-aggrandizement of the clergy, the hypocrisy and willful ignorance of the 'faithful', and the dangers of considering the pre-Enlightenment dogmas of the church (or mosque or synagogue) as being in any sense off limits to criticism and even ridicule.
 
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humanino said:
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Pythagorean said:
What's it called when people take a figure of speech literally? I've always wondered this.

Don't know what it's called. But I started paying a lot of attention to sayings that we just say because every one says it when I began my education in the ultra religious community. Coming from the secular community I used lots of sayings and never thought of it.

One was scum bag. That one got me a lot of attention.
Then...
When I was working by my ultra
orthodox rabbi and he says, "knock on wood." I said Rabbi, did you know that means knock on the wood of the cross?" I found that out from the "" bag Rabbi. :frown:
 
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Sorry to see such a find person gone. R.I.P. Christopher Hitchens. The world needs more people like you.
 

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