Circular Motion -> amusement park ride

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The problem involves a gravitron ride at a fair, which is a circular motion scenario where riders are held against the wall of a rotating cylinder by static friction. The task is to determine the required revolutions per minute of the cylinder based on given parameters such as the cylinder's radius and the coefficient of static friction.

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  • The original poster expresses uncertainty about how to begin solving the problem, suggesting a need for guidance on setting up the equations. Some participants suggest starting with a free-body diagram to identify the forces involved. Others mention the importance of incorporating the friction equation into the analysis.

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Participants are engaging in a constructive dialogue, with one providing a free-body diagram and equations related to the problem. There is an indication that the original poster feels more confident after receiving feedback, although no consensus on the solution has been reached.

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There is a mention of the necessity to consider forces acting on the rider, including gravitational and frictional forces, but no specific values or additional constraints are provided in the discussion.

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Circular Motion --> amusement park ride

Homework Statement


A gravitron ride at a fair consists of a large 15m cylinder, which rotates about a vertically oriented axis of symmetry. The rider is held to the inner cylinder wall by static friction as the bottom of the cylinder is lowered. If the coefficient of static friction between the rider and the wall is 0.8, then how many revolutions per minute must the cylinder execute?


Homework Equations


Fc= m vsquared/r
Fg= mg


The Attempt at a Solution


I don't really know where to start on this one. all i know is that i have to set up an equivalency, and that mass will somehow end up canceling out. Please help me out here, it would be greatly appreciated! Thanks in advance!
 
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You should always start with a free-body diagram with all the forces on it.
Here's a free body diagram (sorry about the suck-ish quality)
http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/6157/freebody.png

You've basically got all the forces, you're just missing the friction equation, which would be
F_{f} = \mu N

So you'd set your equations like this:
\stackrel{+}{\rightarrow}\Sigma F_{x} = 0 \Rightarrow N - F_c = 0 \Rightarrow N - \frac {mv^2}{r} = 0 \Rightarrow N=\frac {mv^2}{r}
\stackrel{+}{\uparrow}\Sigma F_{y} = 0 \Rightarrow F_{f} - F_{g} = 0 \Rightarrow \mu N - mg = 0 \Rightarrow \mu N = mg

Now solve the two equations, substituting N into the second equation
\mu \frac {mv^2}{r} = mg \Rightarrow v = \sqrt{\frac {gr}{\mu}}

And so now you've got "v". The rest shouldn't be hard, try it first.
 
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Thanks for the reply! I guess that problem wasn't all that bad at all!
 


No prob. Just remember to start with free body diagrams with each physics equation, they're pretty much a must.
 

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