Circular Motion of a car making a turn

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The discussion revolves around a car making a turn while traveling at a constant speed along a circular path. Participants are exploring the concepts of centripetal acceleration and tangential acceleration in the context of circular motion, with specific reference to the car's motion from point A to point B along an arc of 237 m completed in 36.8 seconds.

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  • Participants discuss the need to find tangential and centripetal acceleration, questioning the relevance of tangential acceleration given the constant speed. There are inquiries about how to calculate velocity at point B and the implications of the average acceleration over the time interval.

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Some participants have provided guidance on calculating velocity using the total path length and time, while others are exploring the relationship between average and instantaneous speed. There is an ongoing examination of how to determine average acceleration and the components of acceleration at different points in the motion.

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Participants note that the problem involves multiple parts and that the angle of the turn affects the calculations. There is also mention of the need for clarity regarding the specific time intervals and the path taken during the turn.

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A car initially traveling eastward turns north by traveling in a circular path at uniform speed as in the figure below. The length of the arc ABC is 237 m, and the car completes the turn in 36.8 s.

What I've got so far is that I should find the tangential acceleration at B, and then I can use sine and cosine to find the part of the acceleration in each direction, but I can't find the tangential acceleration... any tips?

Thanks.
 

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If it's traveling at a constant angular speed, how would it have a tangential acceleration??
And what's being asked?
 
Oh yeah, it's a three part problem... apparently I forgot to put which part I need help with.

First of all, what is the acceleration when the car is at B located at an angle of 36.8? Express your answer in terms of the unit vectors i and j.

But ok, I can see how I don't need tangential acceleration since it's constant velocity. But I still need to find centripetal acceleration, which requires velocity... so how would I find velocity at B?
 
Yup. And just to remind, acceleration is inwards, perpendicuar to v, with the magnitued [tex]mv^2/r[/tex]
 
Right, but I don't have mass or velocity...
 
Whoops, sorry, I've written the force rather than acceleration. Really sorry! It's [tex]v^2/r[/tex]. Why don't you have speed? You were given length of the path and the time for travel. You can get it out of it.
 
I was given time from A to C. This is just measuring from A to B. It's not just half the time given, though, since it's not a 50 degree angle.
 
The speed is said to be constant in magnitude, you can simply divide the total path and time. I can't see the picture since it's still waiting for approval, so I don't know of a 50 degree, but I guess you should be able to exract velocity out of that picture you've attached.
 
Oh it does say the speed is uniform, so I guess I can find the average speed and that would be the speed at B... I'll try that and see if it's right.
 
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Actually, in that case, speaking magnitude-wise, average equals to instantaneus. Since rhe angle between path and velocity is always same, we can indeed speak magnitude-wise!
 
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Now it says to determine its average acceleration during the 36.8-s interval. The j part of it was the same, but it's telling me the i part of the average acceleration isn't the same, and I can't understand that.
 
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You can draw the velocity vector for t=0 and t=36.8, subract them, and divide it to 36.8. And if it's a complete circle, I find it to be 0.
Did I get you wrong?
 

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