Circular Motion of a car on a curve

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The discussion revolves around the physics of circular motion, specifically regarding a car navigating a banked curve. The original poster is attempting to determine the coefficient of static friction required to prevent skidding at a higher speed on a curve with a specified radius.

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  • Participants are exploring the relationship between speed, radius, and friction in the context of a banked curve. Questions are raised about the implications of a "perfectly banked" curve and how it affects the forces acting on the car, including the role of the normal force in providing centripetal force.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants questioning the original poster's calculations and assumptions. Some guidance has been offered regarding the interpretation of a perfectly banked curve and its implications for the forces involved, but no consensus has been reached.

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There is a noted uncertainty regarding the interpretation of "perfectly banked" and how it relates to the forces acting on the car, particularly in the context of the required coefficient of static friction at different speeds.

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Hello - I'm having doubts about this approach. Thanks in advance!

If a curve with a radius 88m is perfectly banked for a car traveling 75 km/h what must be the coefficient of static friction for a car not to skid when traveling at 95 km/h?

95km/h = 26.4m/s
75km/h = 20.8 m/s

Fr=ma (radial a)
v^2/gr=Us
Us= (95^2/(9.81* 88) = 10.5 ( This seems too large)
 
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How are you taking into account the banking of the curve? Don't forget that a component of the normal force will provide some of the required centripetal force. What do you think "perfectly banked" means?
 
We just got into circular motion so being a circular motion newbie I can only give you a newbie answer. My interpretation of perfectly banked means there is a force pushing the car towards the center of the track. I'm not sure how to use that explanation (assuming it is correct) into an equation.

Thanks!
 
FossilFew said:
We just got into circular motion so being a circular motion newbie I can only give you a newbie answer. My interpretation of perfectly banked means there is a force pushing the car towards the center of the track. I'm not sure how to use that explanation (assuming it is correct) into an equation.

Thanks!
Perfectly banked means that the driver of the vehicle does not feel like s/he is being pushed sideways relative to the seat. Equivalently, it means there is no force making the tires slide up or down the track. What does this tell you about the force of friction when the car is traveling at the "perfect bank" speed of 75 km/h?
 

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