Circular Motion of a Ferris wheel

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The problem involves a Ferris wheel with a radius of 16m that completes one rotation every 20 seconds. Participants are tasked with finding the centripetal acceleration and the effective weight of a person at both the highest and lowest points of the ride.

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  • Participants discuss the use of the formula for centripetal acceleration and question the correct value of angular velocity used. There are attempts to calculate effective weight at different points, with some participants exploring the forces acting on a person at the top and bottom of the Ferris wheel.

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Some participants have provided guidance on understanding the direction of forces involved, while others have expressed uncertainty about their calculations and the application of formulas. There is no explicit consensus on the correctness of the approaches taken, and multiple interpretations of the problem are being explored.

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Participants are navigating through the complexities of centripetal force and gravitational force interactions, and there is mention of free body diagrams and Newton's laws as tools for analysis. Some participants indicate a lack of confidence in their understanding of the concepts involved.

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Homework Statement


An Ferris Wheel has a radius of 16m and rotates once every 20 seconds.

a) Find Centripedal acceleration.
b) Whats the effektive wheight of a 45 kg person at highest point?
c) Lowest point?

Homework Equations


a) I tried using the a=ω2*r in a) but not sure if its right
b)
c) We = mg - ma
Is this the correct equation for a and b?

The Attempt at a Solution


I got out 1,578m*s-2 in a) but not sure if that's correct really.
and also strugling with b) and c)

But here's c) atleast trying using that equation:
45kg*9,82m*s-2 - 45kg*1,578m*s-2= 370,89N Is that right?

and b) do i use same equation for upward motion?
 
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for a you should end up with an acceleration, not a velocity

a=ω^2*r works but you need the correct value of omega, what did you use?

b and c are just adding up the forces acting at those points. Just make sure you have a good understanding of which direction the centripetal force is directed.
 
Oh yeah it was -2 not -1. Spelling error.


I Used for omega, ω = [itex]\frac{(2π*3)}{60}[/itex]
The motions are up and down verticaly, but not sure if that formula is right or if i need to add other things to it
 
well, basically the centripetal force is always pointing towards the center of the circle, and the force due to gravity is always pointed downwards.

So at the top, they are pointed in the same direction, at the bottom they are pointed in opposite directions. So how would you find the net force acting on someone at the top and then at the bottom?
 
SHISHKABOB said:
well, basically the centripetal force is always pointing towards the center of the circle, and the force due to gravity is always pointed downwards.

So at the top, they are pointed in the same direction, at the bottom they are pointed in opposite directions. So how would you find the net force acting on someone at the top and then at the bottom?

Well when going upward you add weight since your pushed "into the seat", and down you take weight when the seat accelerate away from you.

So it would be F = mg+ma at the top since its "added weight"
45kg*9,82m/s^2+45*1,578m/s^2= 512,91N

And when you go down it will be the same but with (-):

45kg*9,82m/s^2-45*1,578m/s^2 = 370,89NOr is this as wrong as I can get? I'm new to this things so I might not be so good at it.
 
yeah that looks correct
 
Okey thanks for the help!
 
2Big2Bite said:
Well when going upward you add weight since your pushed "into the seat", and down you take weight when the seat accelerate away from you.

So it would be F = mg+ma at the top since its "added weight"
45kg*9,82m/s^2+45*1,578m/s^2= 512,91N

And when you go down it will be the same but with (-):

45kg*9,82m/s^2-45*1,578m/s^2 = 370,89N


Or is this as wrong as I can get? I'm new to this things so I might not be so good at it.
This is not correct. The person's effective or 'apparent' weight is the magnitude of the normal force of the seat that pushes up on him or her. The person feels lighter at the top than at the bottom. Use good free body diagrams and Newton's 2nd law to find the normal force at the top, and then at the bottom.
 

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