Undergrad Clarification for a standing wave on a string equation

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The discussion clarifies the correct form of the standing wave equation on a string, confirming that the expression should be [...sin(kx)]sin(wt]. This indicates that the variables x and t are included within the sine function, allowing for a wave-like behavior with varying frequency and nodes. The alternative expression [...x*sin(k)]t*sin(w) does not represent a wave, as it treats k and ω as constants, resulting in a non-varying function. Understanding the mathematical representation is crucial for grasping the physics of standing waves. The conversation emphasizes the importance of correctly interpreting formulas in physics.
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Hello,

Came across https://drive.google.com/file/d/1bpB7BcVf1yQLiwg9quAn2vlhu8-i6Zy_/view and I'm not sure about one thing

For the 2 parts of the equation with sin, is it:
1. [...sin(kx)]sin(wt)

or is it:
2. [...sin(k)*x]sin(w)*t

Thank you

-DR
 
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First, a friendly tip about images: use the UPLOAD button at the bottom of the posting box, then use the option to display as a full image instead of a thumbnail. Then people can see the image directly and don't have to click the link to access your Google Drive.

The answer to your question is choice "1."
 
rudy said:
Hello,

Came across https://drive.google.com/file/d/1bpB7BcVf1yQLiwg9quAn2vlhu8-i6Zy_/view and I'm not sure about one thing

For the 2 parts of the equation with sin, is it:
1. [...sin(kx)]sin(wt)

or is it:
2. [...sin(k)*x]sin(w)*t

Thank you

-DR
I am unable to understand what actually is you doubt regarding the standing waves, please make it clear in the post.
 
Sorry about that... I did try to upload but when I previewed my post I kept getting a "broken image link" symbol (does the image only appear once the post is published?)

And to clarify my question, I was wondering if the variables (x and t) are included inside the sine function parenthesis or if it is multiplied separately.

I'll rewrite 2. as:
[...x*sin(k)]t*sin(w)

and 1. was:
[...sin(kx)]sin(wt)

thanks jt
 
rudy said:
Sorry about that... I did try to upload but when I previewed my post I kept getting a "broken image link" symbol (does the image only appear once the post is published?)

And to clarify my question, I was wondering if the variables (x and t) are included inside the sine function parenthesis or if it is multiplied separately.

I'll rewrite 2. as:
[...x*sin(k)]t*sin(w)

and 1. was:
[...sin(kx)]sin(wt)

thanks jt
1 is right, the variables x and t should be within the sine function parenthesis.
 
If you look at 1., it describes a function that has k cycles per metre and a time variation that's proportional to ω. This describes a function with a range of frequencies and nodes.; it looks like a wave of some sort. The other expression (2.) has the k and ω inside the sin functions. These are both constants and so are sin(k) and sin(ω) so it doesn't describe a function that varies at all! It can't be a wave.
It's important to try to interpret what a formula actually does when you can. It gives a good insight into the relationship between the Maths and the Physics of a situation. It can be worth while even when some of the functions are not familiar.
 
I do not have a good working knowledge of physics yet. I tried to piece this together but after researching this, I couldn’t figure out the correct laws of physics to combine to develop a formula to answer this question. Ex. 1 - A moving object impacts a static object at a constant velocity. Ex. 2 - A moving object impacts a static object at the same velocity but is accelerating at the moment of impact. Assuming the mass of the objects is the same and the velocity at the moment of impact...

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