Clarification on finding argument of complex number

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The discussion revolves around finding the argument of a complex number, specifically addressing different approaches to calculating the angle associated with the complex number. Participants are exploring the implications of using different branches of the argument function and the significance of angle measurement conventions.

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  • The original poster attempts to clarify the validity of their approach versus the textbook's method for determining the argument. Some participants question the implications of angle measurement direction and the choice of branch for the argument function. There are also discussions about rounding errors and typos in calculations.

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Participants are actively engaging with each other's reasoning, with some providing guidance on the conventions of angle measurement and the standard branches of the argument function. There is a recognition of differing approaches, but no explicit consensus has been reached regarding the preferred method.

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Some participants note the importance of the domain given for the argument and the standard branch of the argument function, which is typically defined as −π < arg z ≤ π. There are mentions of potential typos and rounding errors in the calculations presented.

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I am going through this,quite straightforward ...just some bit of clarity from your end; the textbook indicates, the argument as ##-2.90## i have no problem with that as tan cycles at every ##\pi## radians. The problem is that i am not used to this approach.
My approach is more straightforward i.e

##\tan \alpha= 0.25##
##\alpha= \tan^{-1} 0.24 = 0.2449##
##\alpha_{required angle}= \pi + 0.2449=3.386=3.39 ##(2 dp) My question is' does it matter or there is a systematic approach to this; are both approaches valid. Of course, i can see that going backwards ( in terms of cycle) ##[3.386-\pi]=[0.244-\pi]=-2.8971##
Thanks.


or to answer my own question, it depends on the domain given.

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Angles are usually measured counterclockwise from the positive real axis, so I would favor your answer, which is ##\pi + \alpha \approx 3.39##.

Of course, if the goal was to calculate the angle indicated by O in the drawing, then I would favor the answer they showed.
 
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It depends on the branch. Here the book appears to be assuming -\pi &lt; \arg z \leq \pi, which is the standard branch.
 
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chwala said:
##\alpha= \tan^{-1} 0.24 = 0.2449##
I know I'm just being picky but the above should be:
##\alpha= \tan^{-1} 0.25 = 0.2450##
 
Steve4Physics said:
I know I'm just being picky but the above should be:
##\alpha= \tan^{-1} 0.25 = 0.2450##
It looks like that was simply a typo. The line preceding that was:

##\displaystyle \quad\quad \tan \alpha= 0.25 ##
 
SammyS said:
It looks like that was simply a typo. The line preceding that was:

##\displaystyle \quad\quad \tan \alpha= 0.25 ##
I was being too picky. It’s just that there was a typo' and a rounding error in the same line. In retrospect, shouldn't have said anything!
 
Steve4Physics said:
I was being too picky. It’s just that there was a typo' and a rounding error in the same line. In retrospect, shouldn't have said anything!
You warned that you were being picky. I don't think you were being too picky.
I didn't notice that you did also notice the round-off error. That was worth mentioning.
... Maybe I'm being too picky? . . . No, not really.
 
Steve4Physics said:
I was being too picky. It’s just that there was a typo' and a rounding error in the same line. In retrospect, shouldn't have said anything!
@Steve4Physics that's a typo.
 
The standard branch −π<arg⁡z≤π is a principal branch of arg⁡z.
The solutions of arg⁡z, for which the arg⁡z value lies between −π<arg⁡z≤π, are called the principal values of arg⁡z.
 
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chwala said:
@Steve4Physics that's a typo.
Yes. I wouldn't have posted for only a typo'. But just in case you haven’t yet realised…

##\tan^{-1} 0.25 = 0.24497866...##

Rounded to four decimal places, this is ##0.2450##, not ##0.2449## (which is what you wrote in Post #1).
 
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Steve4Physics said:
Yes. I wouldn't have posted for only a typo'. But just in case you haven’t yet realised…

##\tan^{-1} 0.25 = 0.24497866...##

Rounded to four decimal places, this is ##0.2450##, not ##0.2449## (which is what you wrote in Post #1).
correct, in this post my focus was solely on how to determine the argument value... cheers.
 
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