Classic Hit and Stick momentum?

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The problem involves three balls of clay with specified masses and velocities colliding simultaneously and sticking together. Participants are tasked with calculating the resulting speed and direction of the combined mass using principles of momentum.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the application of conservation of momentum in both x and y directions, questioning the original poster's calculations of velocity components. There is a focus on clarifying the direction of the 45° ball and the correct setup of momentum equations.

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Some participants have offered guidance on using conservation of momentum principles to set up equations for both directions. There is an acknowledgment of the need for clarity regarding the direction of the initial velocities and the relationship between momentum and velocity.

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Participants note the ambiguity in the direction of the 45° ball and emphasize the importance of correctly relating momentum before and after the collision. There is a suggestion to check units for consistency in calculations.

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Homework Statement



Three balls of clay have masses m1 = 106 g, m2 = 148 g, m3 = 120 g, and speeds v1 = 1.48 m/s, v2 = 1.19 m/s, v3 = 1.85 m/s. They move in the directions: (1) at 45° from the horizontal, (2) horizontally left, and (3) vertically up. They collide simultaneously and stick together. Calculate the speed and the direction (angle) of the resulting blob of clay.

Homework Equations



p=mv

The Attempt at a Solution



Vx = 106 * 1.48 * cos(45) - 148 * 1.19 = -65.189882 m/s

Vy = 106*1.48sin(45) + 120*1.85 = 332.0309 m/s

V = sqrt(332.0309^2 + [-65.189882]^2) (answer?)

angle = arctan (Vy/Vx)


This isn't right is it,
 
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NoobeAtPhysics said:

Homework Statement



Three balls of clay have masses m1 = 106 g, m2 = 148 g, m3 = 120 g, and speeds v1 = 1.48 m/s, v2 = 1.19 m/s, v3 = 1.85 m/s. They move in the directions: (1) at 45° from the horizontal, (2) horizontally left, and (3) vertically up. They collide simultaneously and stick together. Calculate the speed and the direction (angle) of the resulting blob of clay.

Homework Equations



p=mv

The Attempt at a Solution



Vx = 106 * 1.48 * cos(45) - 148 * 1.19 = -65.189882 m/s

Vy = 106*1.48sin(45) + 120*1.85 = 332.0309 m/s

V = sqrt(332.0309^2 + [-65.189882]^2) (answer?)

angle = arctan (Vy/Vx)


This isn't right is it,
First of all we have to know the direction of the 45° ball. Is it 45° to the left or to the right?

It is not clear what you are doing in calculating vx and vy.

I suggest you write out the equations for momentum before and after the collision and then relate them. How are they related?

AM
 
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No that isn't right, remember that the conservation of momentum applies, use it. Calculate the total momentum in the x direction before the collision, then it them equal to the total momentum in the x direction after the collision, then do the same for the y direction. Then you will have two equations with two unknowns, use algebra to solve for both. What you did was incorrect, you cannot find the total momentum in the x direction and set it equal to the velocity in the x direction. If in doubt, check the units.
 
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So

mv = m1 * v1 + m1*v2 + m2*v3? in the x and y directions then use trig to find speed and direction?
 
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So

mv = m1 * v1 + m1*v2 + m2*v3? in the x and y directions then use trig to find speed and direction?
Yes. What you calculated in the OP (assuming m1 was moving up and to the right, which is not clear) were the x and y momenta, not the x and y speeds. You just needed to divide by the combined mass.
 
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Cool, I got it!
 

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