Classic mechanics problem:two masses with a wedge

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The problem involves two masses connected by a light string over a pulley, with the scenario set on smooth surfaces. The original poster attempts to find the resultant acceleration of the system while grappling with multiple unknowns in their equations.

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  • Participants discuss the meaning of "resultant" acceleration and the implications of the wedge's movement. They explore the relationships between forces acting on the masses and question the number of unknowns in relation to the equations available.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing clarifications and questioning assumptions about the problem setup. Some guidance has been offered regarding the interpretation of forces and the role of parameters like angles, but no consensus has been reached on the interpretation of the wedge's movement.

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There is ambiguity regarding whether the wedge is stationary or allowed to move, which significantly affects the complexity of the problem. Participants are also considering the implications of the angles involved in the system.

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Homework Statement


Given that two masses are connected by a light string over a pulley.They are initial at rest.Suppose all the surfaces are smooth.Find the resultant acceleration of the system

Homework Equations


F=ma
Fpseudo=-ma

The Attempt at a Solution


Suppose I let the resultant a be A,and the acceleration of each mass along the wedge be a
First for mass m
mgsinx+mAcosx-T=ma
N-mgcosx+mAsinx=0
for mass m'
T-m'gsinx'+m'Acosx'=m'a
N'-m'gcosx'-m'Asinx'=0
But then i get stuck because there are 5 unknown but there are only 4 equations
Did I miss anything?
 

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First off, it is not completely clear what you mean by "resultant", are you implying that it is the tension+gravity? In that case you are essentially trying to take them into account twice. Second, you do not need to consider the force equations orthogonal to the directions of motion as the normal force will settle this to give no direction. You will then have two equations (one from the free body diagram for each block) and two unknowns (the tension in the string and the acceleration). What other unknowns are you thinking of? The angles x and x'? Those are parameters of the problem and your final solution will depend on them. (However, note that there is a simple relationship between them due to the geometry of the problem.)
 
I think what the resultant acceleration means is that A,which is acceleration of the whole system moving left or right
I still get 3 unknowns,a,A and T,in two equations
 
You are saying that the wedge is also allowed to move? This is not clear to me from the problem statement and of course makes the problem significantly harder. In that case you will have to consider several additional things. Would the "resultant acceleration" be the acceleration of the wedge or the acceleration of the centre of mass of the entire system?
 

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