Clock, calculate displacement, avg. velocity, avg. acceleration.

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The problem involves calculating the displacement, average velocity, and average acceleration of the tip of a minute hand on a clock, specifically from the 6 PM mark to the 9 PM mark. The subject area includes kinematics and vector analysis.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the definitions and calculations of displacement, average velocity, and average acceleration, with some questioning the correctness of vector directions and units. There is also a focus on the introduction of π in calculations and its appropriateness.

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Some participants are providing guidance on the definitions and calculations involved, while others are exploring different interpretations of the vector directions and units. There is an acknowledgment of confusion regarding the organization of vectors and the implications of those definitions on the calculations.

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Participants are addressing potential errors in the setup of vectors and the implications for the calculations, including the need for clarity on units for acceleration. There is also mention of homework constraints that may affect the approach to the problem.

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Homework Statement


A clock has a 20 cm minute hand. From the 6 PM mark to the 9 PM mark, for the tip of the minute hand, calculate:
a. the displacement vector in unit-vector notation.
b. the average velocity vector in unit-vector notation.
c. the average acceleration vector in unit-vector notation.
d. calculate the magnitude and direction of the average acceleration vector.

2. The attempt at a solution
a. I named my 6 PM vector B and my 9 PM vector A. A=-20i and B=-20j. A-B=C(the displacement vector) which equals -20i+20j

b. V=(-20i+20j)/15min= -4/3i+4/3j cm/min

c. Vi=Vf=40∏/60=2∏/3
Vi=-2∏/3i
Vf= 2∏/3j
Aave= (2∏/3i+2∏/3j)/15min = 2∏/45i+2∏/45j cm/min^2

d. √((2∏/45)^2)+(2∏/45)^2) = .197 cm
tanΘ=2∏/45/2∏/45 = 45°

I am not sure if I did b, c, or d right.
 
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b. Why did you introduce pi into your answer?

c. Vi and Vf are wrong directions.

d. Wrong units. And technically tanθ ≠45°.
 
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Oh shoot, I didn't mean to put pi in for part b, I'll edit that. But for part c I used it to find the velocity of the minute hand, the circumference divided by the time it takes the minute hand to do one rotation.

c. Why are Vi and Vf wrong directions? Wouldn't the velocity at 6 PM be to the left so it would be negative and at 9 PM it would be straight up so it would be positive?

d. And I am not sure what the units are supposed to be then, but the angle is wrong because of what I did wrong in part b I am assuming.
 
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c. But you defined 6PM to be your A vector = -20i. Your velocity can't be in the same direction.

d. What are the units for acceleration? I think you got the right answer for θ, you just stated it wrong as tanθ.
 
Ah, it was supposed to be the other way, my A vector is 9 PM, and my 6 PM is my B vector. Sorry, i need to work on organization apparently.
Oh, I was thinking of magnitude as a unit of length for some reason, but it would be cm/min^2 then.
Is my average acceleration vector right then?
 
I didn't check your numbers in detail but your answer says the average acceleration is 45 degrees towards the 2 o'clock/3 o'clock position. Intuitively that seems right to me.
 
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