Closed subset of R^n has an element of minimal norm

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The discussion revolves around a problem in functional analysis concerning a normed vector space and the properties of closed subsets. The original poster seeks to demonstrate that a closed subset of a normed space contains an element of minimal norm, with a focus on the implications of compactness in this context.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • Participants explore the necessity of compactness and discuss the Heine-Borel theorem regarding closed and bounded subsets in R^n. Questions arise about the selection of a suitable compact subset of F and the implications of intersecting F with a compact set.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants sharing ideas and questioning the reasoning behind the need for compactness. Some guidance has been offered regarding the properties of compact sets and their intersections, but there is no explicit consensus on the approach to take.

Contextual Notes

There is an underlying assumption that F is a closed, nonempty subset, as the original problem statement would not hold if F were empty. Participants are also considering the implications of choosing a sufficiently large radius for the compact subset.

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Homework Statement


a) Let V be a normed vector space. Then show that (by the triangle inequality) the function f(x)=||x|| is a Lipschitz function from V into [0,∞). In particular, f is uniformly continuous on V.

b) Show that a closed subset F of contains an element of minimal norm, that is, there is an x E F such that ||x||≤||y|| for all y E F. (here ||x|| refers to the usual Euclidean norm).
(hint: F may not be compact, so work on a suitable compact subset of F.)

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The Attempt at a Solution


I proved part a, but I really have no idea how to do part b. Why do we need compactness, and what is the suitable compact subset of F?

I hope someone can help me out! Thank you!
 
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just ideas that will need some working but hope they help

you want to take a compact subset of F, is a closed an bounded subset enough to be compact (it is in Rn - Hiene Borel)?

you could pick any element of F, then use it to set your bound, and show elements outside the bounded set have a larger norm

now you have a compact subset of a metric space and i seem to remember something along the lines of a continuous real valued function always takes a maximal & minimal value on a compact set...
 
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If we intersect F with a compact set K, will F intersect K stilll be compact? Why or why not?
Also, should we choose K to be very small? How can we formalize this choice of K? (i.e. what is the so-called suitable compact subset of F mentioned in the hint?)


"...and show elements outside the bounded set have a larger norm"
How??
 
Consider the closed balls of radius r, centred at the origin:

B\left(0,r\right)=\left\{x \in V:\left\|x\right\|\leq r\right\}

There must be one that intersects F. How do you go on from there?
 
Why does it have to intersect F?

And how can we show elements outside the bounded set have a larger norm? I don't get this idea at all. How is this possible? Can someone please explain this in greater detail?

Thanks a lot!
 
By definition, elements outside the ball of radius r have a larger norm than elements inside a ball of radius r. Look at how Suarez described the set
 
For sufficiently large r, it must intersect F; otherwise, F would be empty.
 
What would go wrong if F were empty??
 
It wouldn't have an element with minimum norm; in fact, the original statement of your question should be "a closed nonempty subset F contains an element of minumum norm". As the empty set is closed, the statement is false without that condition.
 

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