CMOS Sensor with external reset control

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the search for a CMOS or CCD sensor that features raw analog output and external reset/transfer control. Participants explore the specifications and functionalities of various sensor types, particularly in the context of imaging applications.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Johan initiates the discussion by seeking a CMOS or CCD sensor with specific features, emphasizing that high resolution is not a requirement.
  • One participant asks for clarification on what is meant by "external reset/transfer control," suggesting they may have relevant experience in solid-state imaging.
  • Another participant notes that sensors typically operate on an integrate and dump basis, prompting a request for more details about the intended application, including timing and sensitivity requirements.
  • Johan clarifies that by reset/transfer control, they refer to the transistors in a 3T or 4T CMOS sensor, expressing a desire to control these gates externally to read pixel responses without accumulation.
  • A suggestion is made to explore different shutter architectures, including global and rolling shutters, and a link to relevant sensor arrays is provided.
  • Johan expresses that they found a suitable sensor with rolling shutter capabilities, which they believe will meet their needs.
  • Another participant expresses surprise that a rolling shutter would work for Johan's application, questioning the feasibility of varying exposure times across the sensor array.
  • Johan responds that they plan to read pixels individually while the lines are reset, allowing each pixel to function as a photo diode without charge accumulation.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

The discussion features multiple viewpoints regarding the functionality and suitability of different sensor types and architectures. There is no consensus on the best approach or sensor, as participants explore various options and specifications.

Contextual Notes

Participants discuss the implications of different shutter architectures and the control of clock signals, indicating that the discussion is technical and may involve assumptions about sensor behavior and application requirements.

Jaynte
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Hi

I've been searching for a CMOS or CCD sensor with raw analog output and external reset/transfer control but has not been able to find this. Doesn't have to be great resolution.

Anyone knows if there is a sensor like this on the market today?

Best
Johan
 
Jaynte said:
Hi

I've been searching for a CMOS or CCD sensor with raw analog output and external reset/transfer control but has not been able to find this. Doesn't have to be great resolution.

Anyone knows if there is a sensor like this on the market today?

Best
Johan

What exactly do you mean as external reset/transfer control? I work in the area of solid-Sstate imaging. We make CCDs that are fully analog (inputs are clocks and transfer gate, outputs are pure analog. I might be able to help.
 
I thought the sensors would be integrate and dump, so they are continuously being reset.

Better to explain exactly what you are actually trying to do, the timing requirements, sensitivity, etc.
 
analogdesign said:
What exactly do you mean as external reset/transfer control? I work in the area of solid-Sstate imaging. We make CCDs that are fully analog (inputs are clocks and transfer gate, outputs are pure analog. I might be able to help.

I'm sorry I've might have been unclear with my post.

With reset/transfer I mean the transistors in a 3T or 4T CMOS sensor. I would like to control the gates of these transistors externally.

Actually what I'm trying to do is to read out the pixels during the time they are reset:ed to get the response of the photo diode without any accumulation/integration.

What I have found is that some sensors can be set to zero integration time (exposure time) so my idea is to do that and slow down or totally stop the system clock to get the same behaviour. But then the output needs to be analog.
 
look at these arrays with different shutter options selected. Maybe one will do what you want. Then maybe you can find one with those features and analog out.
Do you understand all the different shutter architectures?
global shutter
pipelined global
pipelined and global trigger, etc

http://www.onsemi.com/PowerSolutions/parametrics.do?id=101682

It's pretty common to read out the "dark noise", but I don't know what sensors or control chips are used.
 
meBigGuy said:
look at these arrays with different shutter options selected. Maybe one will do what you want. Then maybe you can find one with those features and analog out.
Do you understand all the different shutter architectures?
global shutter
pipelined global
pipelined and global trigger, etc

http://www.onsemi.com/PowerSolutions/parametrics.do?id=101682

It's pretty common to read out the "dark noise", but I don't know what sensors or control chips are used.

Yes, I need rolling shutter for this. I found a sensor on your link that I think will be perfect. Thanks.
 
Wow --- I'm surprised that rolling shutter works for what you want. It dumps a line at a time. Can you live with the changing exposure time as you sequence across the array?
 
meBigGuy said:
Wow --- I'm surprised that rolling shutter works for what you want. It dumps a line at a time. Can you live with the changing exposure time as you sequence across the array?

Yes I'm going to read the line pixel by pixel while the line is reset:ed so that each pixel acts as a plain photo diode and not accumulating charge (no exposure time).
Found several sensor with analog output where this is possible by controlling the X-CLK and Y-CLK seperatly and also controlling which line to reset and which to read.

Pause Y-CLK at reset and control X-CLK to switch to next pixel after read.
 

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