CO2 and Oxygen LevelsAre oxygen levels declining due to increasing CO2 levels?

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The discussion centers around the relationship between increasing CO2 levels and the potential decline in O2 levels. Participants explore the implications of combustion processes and photosynthesis on atmospheric oxygen, considering both chemical principles and observational data.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that if CO2 levels are rising due to the combustion of fossil fuels, then O2 levels must be decreasing, based on basic chemical reactions.
  • Another participant recalls an observation from the IPCC's 4th assessment report indicating a small decrease in O2 levels that correlates with the rise in CO2, although this change is described as being at the limit of measurability.
  • Several participants note the difference in measurement units, with CO2 being measured in parts per million and O2 in percent, which complicates the observation of changes in O2 levels.
  • One participant mentions seasonal variations in CO2 concentrations, highlighting that CO2 levels peak in winter and decrease in summer due to increased photosynthesis, particularly in the northern hemisphere.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the relationship between CO2 and O2 levels, with some supporting the idea of a decline in O2 and others emphasizing the complexities and measurement challenges involved. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the extent and implications of these changes.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge limitations in the observations due to the measurement differences and the seasonal variability of CO2 concentrations, which may affect interpretations of O2 levels.

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This was prompted by another thread which got me thinking.

If CO2 levels are increasing then surely O2 levels must be decreasing?

I mean I am just going by basic chemistry, we have hydrocarbons (fossil fuels) where
are being burnt and I believe the basic formula is:-

Hydrogen and Carbon (from fossil fuels) + O2 (from atmosphere)= CO2 + H20.

So it would seem to a 'layman' like me that if CO2 is increasing then O2 must be decreasing?

The only source of O2 that I am aware of is plants, but I believe they have to take CO2
out of the atmosphere to make O2, so if CO2 is increasing then O2 (oxygen) must be decreasing?

I did a bit of chemistry so I think that is right.
 
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boomerang said:
This was prompted by another thread which got me thinking.

If CO2 levels are increasing then surely O2 levels must be decreasing?

I remember having read such an observation somewhere in the 4th assesment report of the IPCC (physical basis blah blah). One sees indeed a small decrease in O2 levels qualitatively in correlation with the CO2 rise, although it is at the limit of what is measurable.
 
Ie, remember that CO2 concentration is measured in parts per million while O2 is measured in percent.
 
russ_watters said:
Ie, remember that CO2 concentration is measured in parts per million while O2 is measured in percent.

Yes, that's why this observation was so difficult...
 
CO_2 concetrations vary from winter to summer in a given year - peaking in winter; lower in summer due to increased photosynthesis during spring and summer.

Due in part to the northern hemisphere has more vegetated land mass than does the southern hemisphere.

FWIW.
 

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