Coefficient of Friction problem

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The problem involves a waterslide scenario where a man slides down a frictionless slide and then encounters friction on a ramp, leading to a calculation of the coefficient of friction based on his landing distance. The context includes angles of inclination and mass, with an emphasis on forces and motion.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss using Newton's second law and free body diagrams to analyze forces and motion. There are suggestions to use conservation of energy or constant vertical acceleration to find speed components. Questions arise regarding the calculation of speed and energy loss due to friction.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with some participants offering guidance on potential methods to approach the problem. There is a mix of attempts to clarify concepts and calculations, but no consensus has been reached on the correct values or methods yet.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the problem involves extra credit and that the material may not have been fully covered in class, leading to uncertainty in the approach.

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Homework Statement


An attraction at a waterpark includes a straight waterslide 20m long at an angle of 34 degrees above the horizontal. The waterslide ends in a ramp 5 m long at an angle of 45 degrees above the horizontal. People sliding down the slide land in a small pool just past the end of the ramp. The waterslide is kept frictionless by spraying fine streams of water onto it through several nozzles located along the length of the slide.

Unfortunately, a poor management decision to conserve water at the water park results in the water being turned off just as a 120 kg man enters the ramp, so that the last 5m of his trip on the slide is no longer frictionless. The man flies off the ramp, misses the pool and lands on the pavement a horizontal distance of 12m fro the end of the slide. What is the coefficient of friction between the man and the waterslide?


Homework Equations


F(x) = -Fk = ma(x)
F(y) = n - mg = 0
n-mgcos(theta) = 0
Ff(force of friction) + mgsin(theta) = ma(up)



The Attempt at a Solution



Well I am not really sure how to attempt this problem at all, its extra credit and we haven't quite learned this material yet. I do know though that its a Newtons second law problem and that when going up the ramp the frictional force will cause the acceleration to decrease. I also know that I have to use a FBD to figure out the acceleration and velocity of the man at the moment he hits the ramp, and then solve for the coefficient of friction. However I am not quite sure what steps to take. So if someone could maybe walk me through their thought process id Really appreciate it.
 
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Work out the horizontal and vertical components of his speed at the start of the friction part ( using either conservation of energy or constant vertical accelearation)

Then work out what speed he must have left the ramp to reach the crash point - this is just the standard cannon ball firing question.

Then you have how much speed ( and therefore energy ) he lost to friction.
Since energy is force * distance you can work out the average force, and with his weight to give you the normal force - you have the coefficient of friction.
 
Im not quite sure how you would find the components of his speed using the constant vertical acceleration. can you clarify a bit more?
 
If you neglect friction the only forces acting are his weight, so you can calculate the vertical accelaration of an object down an inclined plane just by knowing 'g' and the angle
 
ahh ok. that makes sense.
 
I came up wth 22.1 m/s for his velocity he left the ramp at, and 11.54 m/s for his velocity before he left..which doesn't make sense.

Are either of those numbers similar to what you got?
 

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