Coefficient of Restitution problem

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The discussion revolves around a problem involving the coefficient of restitution (COR) in a collision scenario between a squash racquet and a ball, focusing on their respective velocities before and after impact.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the correct application of the COR formula and question the directionality of the velocities involved. There is discussion about whether to use speeds or velocities in the calculations, and how to properly account for the opposite directions of the objects' movements.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the problem, questioning assumptions about directionality and the definitions of speed versus velocity. Some have provided insights into how to approach the equation based on the signs of the velocities, but no consensus has been reached on the correct formulation yet.

Contextual Notes

There is an emphasis on understanding the implications of direction in the context of the problem, particularly regarding how to assign positive and negative values to the velocities based on their directions.

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Hello, I have this simple COR problem that I seem to be a bit stuck on.

Homework Statement


A 1.25 kg squash racquet swung at 37 m/s contacts a ball moving at 42 m/s in the opposite direction. Immediately after impact the racquet has a velocity of 25 m/s and the ball has a velocity of 50 m/s. What is the coefficient of restitution associated with the impact?

Homework Equations


I've been using e= (V1-V2)/(U1-U2)

The Attempt at a Solution


When I use this equation I get 5, but obviously that's wrong since it shouldn't be greater than 1.

Can anyone point me in the right direction? Thanks so much
 
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CCC1212 said:
Can anyone point me in the right direction? Thanks so much

The operative word is direction!
 
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PeroK said:
The operative word is direction!
I sort of had a feeling this may be the case. Should I be using "U1+U2" instead of "U2-U1". Or am I way off?
 
CCC1212 said:
I sort of had a feeling this may be the case. Should I be using "U1+U2" instead of "U2-U1". Or am I way off?

Then depends on the direction of ##U_1## and ##U_2##. Are you using speeds or velocities?
 
PeroK said:
Then depends on the direction of ##U_1## and ##U_2##. Are you using speeds or velocities?

Velocities since it says 'in the opposite direction' I'm assuming.
 
CCC1212 said:
Velocities since it says 'in the opposite direction' I'm assuming.

So, what are the initial velocities of the racket and ball?
 
They are 37 m/s (racket) and 42 m/s (ball)

Ahhh I think I see what you may be getting at. Because it says the ball is moving in the opposite direction, should I be writing the equation like...

50-25/37- -42
 
CCC1212 said:
They are 37 m/s (racket) and 42 m/s (ball)

No, for velocities that can't be correct if they are in opposite directions.

CCC1212 said:
Ahhh I think I see what you may be getting at. Because it says the ball is moving in the opposite direction, should I be writing the equation like...

50-25/37- -42

Only if you know why!
 
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PeroK said:
No, for velocities that can't be correct if they are in opposite directions.
Could you explain that statement. I thought the difference between speed and velocity is that velocity considers direction?
 
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CCC1212 said:
Could you explain that statement. I thought the difference between speed and velocity is that velocity considers direction?

When you have a problem in 1D it's up to you to decide what direction is positive and what direction is negative. In this case I might decide that the racket is moving in the positive direction, which means that the velocity of the racket is ##37m/s##.

The ball is moving in the opposite direction, so its velocity must be ##-42 m/s##.
 
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PeroK said:
When you have a problem in 1D it's up to you to decide what direction is positive and what direction is negative. In this case I might decide that the racket is moving in the positive direction, which means that the velocity of the racket is ##37m/s##.

The ball is moving in the opposite direction, so its velocity must be ##-42 m/s##.

Ahhh of course. Thanks so much!
 

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