Cofused with this Momentum problem

  • Thread starter Thread starter teken894
  • Start date Start date
  • Tags Tags
    Momentum
Click For Summary

Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around a momentum problem related to a combustion engine, specifically focusing on the force produced by gas molecules during an explosion and the resulting speed of those molecules. The original poster presents a calculation involving impulse and momentum but questions the discrepancy between their answer and the correct one.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to apply the impulse-momentum theorem but is uncertain about their result. Some participants question the assumptions regarding momentum change, particularly the behavior of gas molecules upon impact with the piston. Others seek clarification on the correct interpretation of the velocity change involved in the problem.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the momentum change and seeking to clarify the reasoning behind the correct answer. There is an indication of productive dialogue as participants attempt to break down the problem further.

Contextual Notes

Participants are grappling with the conceptual aspects of momentum change, particularly in relation to the behavior of gas molecules and their interaction with the piston. There may be assumptions about the direction of velocities and the nature of momentum transfer that are under examination.

teken894
Messages
25
Reaction score
0
19. Incorrect In a combustion engine, gas is burned. The resulting explosion produces a force that drives the pistons in the engine. The force of the explosion on the piston is due to the change in momentum of the gas molecules. A 0.4-g sample of gas produces a force of 2400 N in an explosion that lasts 10e-3 seconds. What must be the speed of the gas molecules?

My answer: 6 x 10e3 m/s
The correct answer: 3 x 10e3 m/s

I used the impluse force = change in momentum formula

ft = mv

2400(10e-3) = .0004(x)
and solved to get 6e3 m/s

What am I missing?
 
Physics news on Phys.org
the molecules don't stick to the piston, they bounce off.
so the change of momentum is ( p_f - p_i ) double the final momentum.
 
Err...

I get that...but how is the answer 3e3 m/s ?

could you put some numbers into the explanation, because conceptually I'm not getting why the change the velocity is 3e3??
 
suppose the molecule is above the piston, calling upward as positive.
v_i is negative "v" , but v_f is positive "v".
The change of momentum is m times 2"v".

The change of momentum of the molecules is the negative of
the change of momentum of the piston (I expect you DID get this).
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 9 ·
Replies
9
Views
1K
  • · Replies 10 ·
Replies
10
Views
2K
Replies
7
Views
2K
  • · Replies 10 ·
Replies
10
Views
2K
Replies
1
Views
2K
  • · Replies 10 ·
Replies
10
Views
2K
  • · Replies 9 ·
Replies
9
Views
3K
  • · Replies 6 ·
Replies
6
Views
2K
  • · Replies 19 ·
Replies
19
Views
3K
  • · Replies 12 ·
Replies
12
Views
3K