Coil + zinkplate + copperplate + 9V battery = shock

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The discussion centers around the unexpected intensity of electrical shock experienced when connecting a zinc plate and a copper plate in series with a 9V battery and a coil with an iron core. Participants highlight that the coil acts as an inductor, potentially generating higher voltages during current changes, which can lead to hazardous situations. The conversation emphasizes the importance of electrical safety, particularly when using coils, as they can create dangerous voltage levels. Recommendations include avoiding direct contact with live circuits and utilizing proper measuring tools like resistors and oscilloscopes instead of human touch.

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So I just connected a zinkplate and a copperplate in series with a battery 9v and a coil(with a an iron core). All the parts are from a set bought for learning about electricity.

Since I was a kid I have many time put the + and the - of a 9V battery on my tongue, and felt the electricity.

So when I did this little experiment I was in shock, both mentally and physically:) Because I really felt it! Through my hands! It was so strong! And I was just holding the plates with each hand. And this just from a 9V battery?

How is this possible? what is going on? Why am I feeling it so strong, even though the voltage is the same 9V? Why does the sink/copper and coil increase the shock?

I also tried pulling out the iron/metal core from the coil, and then I didn't really feel anything, but then slowly pushing it inwards made the shock more intense again! why?

Now the instructions is asking me too make my fingers wet, and I am too scared, kind of... :)

Is this stuff dangerous? This kit is meant for kids from 8 years and up:)

Can someone enlighten me somewhat on this?

Thanks:)
 

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A coil with an iron core makes an inductor whose voltage can get quite large if you make a sudden change of current, e.g. if you have a current in the circuit, and then suddenly open the circuit. This kind of thing, IMO, is somewhat risky. You should not be using your hands or your tongue as a voltage probe. Even as beginner, proper electrical safety needs to be practiced. Especially with a coil, you can not assume that you will not create hazardous voltage and/or current levels. ## \\ ## @anorlunda What might your assessment be, of this apparatus? IMO, a resistor in the circuit and an oscilloscope would be useful in probing the voltage, and certainly not wet hands or your tongue.
 
At first I thought that a 9V battery was intrinsicly safe because of the low energy. I wasn't considering the coil. But if we add a coil and contacts, we approximate a 12V ignition system for a car, which creates a spark big enough for a spark plug.

In most circumstances, the shock would not injure. But there are always unforeseen circumstances --- someone with a pacemaker, someone who misses his tongue and touches his eye, and so on. So, not safe when a coil is included.

Dangerous topics are not allowed on PF. Touching live wires is categorically a dangerous topic IMO. Sensing voltages with human touch should also be categorically dangerous IMO.Thread closed.
 
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