College Algebra Simplifying Exponents

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The discussion revolves around simplifying the expression -9^{-3/2} in a college algebra context. Participants are exploring different approaches to handling negative bases and fractional exponents, as well as the implications of square roots in their calculations.

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Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster presents their method of simplification alongside the teacher's method, leading to questions about the validity of their approach and the interpretation of negative bases.
  • Some participants discuss the conventions surrounding square roots and the implications of using negative bases in exponentiation.
  • There is a consideration of the distinction between -9^{-3/2} and -(9^{-3/2}), with some participants questioning how this affects the outcome.
  • Others raise points about the technical definitions of square roots and the potential for imaginary solutions.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing insights and clarifications regarding the original poster's methods and the teacher's approach. There is no explicit consensus, but various interpretations and conventions are being explored.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the importance of clarity in notation, particularly regarding the use of brackets with negative bases and the conventions of square roots. The conversation reflects a mix of foundational algebra concepts and the nuances of mathematical definitions.

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Hi everyone. I'm back and happy to be back. I missed math. Anyways, I am taking a college Algebra class as it has been a while, and I definitely want to make sure I have a good foundation for higher maths. But, I have a conundrum. The teacher today gave this example that I thought I had solved correctly, but I did it differently. :o I'm going to post how I solved it and how the teacher solved it.

My Way:

Homework Statement


-9^{-3/2}

Homework Equations


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The Attempt at a Solution



-9^{-3/2}
=-(\frac{1}{9^3})^{1/2}
=-(\frac{1}{729})^{1/2}
=-(\frac{1}{27}) ^^
=±\frac{1}{27}

^^ Did I bend the rules here? It's a negative before that... but then a negative of a negative ('cuz of the square root) is a positive, so plus-minus.

TEACHER'S WAY:

Homework Statement


-9^{-3/2}

Homework Equations


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The Attempt at a Solution


-9^{-3/2}
=\frac{1}{-9^{3/2}}
=\frac{1}{-(9^{1/2})^3}
=\frac{-1}{(3)^3}
=\frac{-1}{27}
=±\frac{1}{27}All right, so that's it. The problem solved... my way and the teacher's way. I just want to make sure the answer is correct (never hurts to verify), and that I'm not bending the rules of math again. Thanks in advance for your help.
 
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velox_xox said:
Hi everyone. I'm back and happy to be back. I missed math. Anyways, I am taking a college Algebra class as it has been a while, and I definitely want to make sure I have a good foundation for higher maths. But, I have a conundrum. The teacher today gave this example that I thought I had solved correctly, but I did it differently. :o I'm going to post how I solved it and how the teacher solved it.

My Way:

Homework Statement


-9^{-3/2}


Homework Equations


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The Attempt at a Solution



-9^{-3/2}
=-(\frac{1}{9^3})^{1/2}
=-(\frac{1}{729})^{1/2}
=-(\frac{1}{27}) ^^
=±\frac{1}{27}

By convention, x^{1/2} and \sqrt{x} both mean the positive root. Hence -9^{-3/2} = -(9^{-3/2}) = -(3^{-3}) = -\frac{1}{27}.
 
I agree with pasmith, but if your teacher had the plus-minus, then the probably are using the more technical definition: ##\sqrt{9} = \pm 3##
 
BiGyElLoWhAt said:
I agree with pasmith, but if your teacher had the plus-minus, then the probably are using the more technical definition: ##\sqrt{9} = \pm 3##

No, it just indicates that the teacher is unaware of the technical definition, which is \sqrt{x} \geq 0.

The set of numbers x such that x^2 = 9 is \{-3,3\} for which x = \pm 3 is an abbreviation. But \sqrt{9} = 3.
 
What you did is fine, the only thing I want to point out is ##(-9)^{-3/2}## ,which is what your original problem looks like, is completely different from ##-(9)^{-3/2}## which is how you treated the problem.

The first solution is imaginary while the second has the real solutions that both you and your teacher arrived at.
 
BiGyElLoWhAt said:
What you did is fine, the only thing I want to point out is ##(-9)^{-3/2}## ,which is what your original problem looks like, is completely different from ##-(9)^{-3/2}## which is how you treated the problem.

By convention, -a^b means -(a^b). If you want (-a)^b you need the brackets.
 
pasmith said:
No, it just indicates that the teacher is unaware of the technical definition, which is \sqrt{x} \geq 0.

The set of numbers x such that x^2 = 9 is \{-3,3\} for which x = \pm 3 is an abbreviation. But \sqrt{9} = 3.

Hmmm... I see what you're saying, (see my post about imaginary solutions) but in what I'm assuming is the context of class (please OP, correct me if I'm wrong because I very well may be)

##\sqrt{9} = x##
Solve for x as follows:
##\sqrt{9}^2=x^2##
##9 = x^2##
##0= x^2 -9##
##0 = (x+3)(x-3)##

##x= \pm 3##
 
pasmith said:
By convention, -a^b means -(a^b). If you want (-a)^b you need the brackets.

OK well I'm not going to argue over convention. I just always tend to over use brackets for clarity, soo...

I bid you adieu
 
BiGyElLoWhAt said:
Hmmm... I see what you're saying, (see my post about imaginary solutions) but in what I'm assuming is the context of class (please OP, correct me if I'm wrong because I very well may be)

##\sqrt{9} = x##
Solve for x as follows:
##\sqrt{9}^2=x^2##
The first line implies the second, but not vice versa.

Using the same logic, I could say: ##x = 1##, therefore ##x^2 = 1##, therefore ##x^2 - 1 = 0##, therefore ##(x-1)(x+1) = 0##, therefore ##x=1## or ##x=-1##. Which is of course true: one of ##x=1## and ##x=-1## is true, but only one (##x=1##).
 

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