[College Chem] kinetic energy problem

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around a homework problem involving the kinetic energy of an atom traveling at 1.00% the speed of light, with a given kinetic energy of 2.016x10-16 kJ. Participants are tasked with identifying the element based on this information, exploring the relevant equations and calculations.

Discussion Character

  • Homework-related
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • One participant calculates the mass of the atom as 4.48E-26 g but struggles to match this with any element on the periodic table.
  • Another participant provides the answer as 27 g/mol, identifying the element as Aluminum.
  • A later reply corrects the mass calculation to 4.48E-26 kg and explains the conversion to atomic mass units, suggesting it corresponds to Aluminum's atomic mass.
  • One participant questions whether the mass should actually be 4.48E-29 kg, proposing a different calculation based on kinetic energy units.
  • Another participant notes that the energy is given in kilojoules, indicating a hidden factor of 1000 that affects the calculations.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the correct mass calculation, with some agreeing on the identification of Aluminum while others propose alternative mass values and calculations. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the correct mass and its implications for identifying the element.

Contextual Notes

There are potential limitations in the calculations, including assumptions about unit conversions and the treatment of kinetic energy in different units. The discussion highlights the complexity of converting between mass and energy units in this context.

Lori

Homework Statement


[/B]
atom traveling at 1.00% the speed of light has a KE of 2.016x10-16 kJ. Identify the element.

Homework Equations


[/B]
KE = .5mv^2
Hv= binding energy + KE

The Attempt at a Solution


[/B]
Ok. So I plugged into velocity and me to find my mass and got like 4.48E-26 g. So I tried to convert to grams/mol but it doesn't match with any of the elements on the periodic table... What do I do?
 
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I also have the solution but still want to know how to get the answer.

Answer : 27g/mol Aluminum
 
Lori said:

Homework Statement



atom traveling at 1.00% the speed of light has a KE of 2.016x10-16 kJ. Identify the element. [/B]

Homework Equations



KE = .5mv^2
Hv= binding energy + KE[/B]

The Attempt at a Solution



Ok. So I plugged into velocity and me to find my mass and got like 4.48E-26 g. So I tried to convert to grams/mol but it doesn't match with any of the elements on the periodic table... What do I do?[/B]

I also have the solution but still want to know how to get the answer.

Answer : 27g/mol Aluminum

Hi Lori! Welcome to PF! :)

The mass should be 4.48E-26 kg (kilograms), which we should divide by the average mass of a proton and a neutron, the so called unified atomic mass unit (u), which is 1.66E-27 kg/u.
The result is 27.0 u, which corresponds to the atomic mass of Aluminium, and which is also its number of grams per mol.
 
Shouldn't the mass be 4.48E-29 kg?

[2(2.016E-16)] / [0.01* (3.00E8)] = 4.48E-29kg

the units for KE is kgm^2/s^2 if I'm correct and so the kg is left and i get 4.48E-29kg
 
Note that the energy is given in kilo joules. There is a hidden factor 1000 in there. And that's while the kilogram (including the kilo) is part of the joule.
In other words, we have: 1 kJ = 1000 kg.m2/s2.
 
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Thank you. I did not know that!
 
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