Collision/Impulse: Calculating Impulse and Average Force

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving impulse and average force during a collision. The scenario describes a ball dropping and rebounding, with calculations for impulse and force based on given velocities and contact time.

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  • Participants explore the calculation of impulse using the change in momentum, questioning the sign and direction of momentum as a vector. There are attempts to clarify the correct application of formulas for impulse and average force.

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Some participants provide feedback on the initial calculations, emphasizing the importance of direction in momentum. A re-attempt at the calculations is made, showing progress in understanding the concepts involved. Guidance is offered regarding the correct notation for units.

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Participants note the need to consider the vector nature of momentum and the significance of positive and negative signs in calculations. There is an emphasis on ensuring that magnitudes are expressed positively.

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I'm unsure if I set this up correctly. It's a mulitple choice homework question and it doesn't match any possible answers.

Question:
A 0.605 kg ball drops vertically onto a floor, hitting with a speed of 34 m/s. It rebounds with an initial speed of 11 m/s. (a) What impulse acts on the ball during the contact? (b) If the ball is in contact with the floor for 0.0171 s, what is the magnitude of the average force on the floor from the ball?

Attempt:
Part A:
I = mvf - mvi
I = m(vf - vi)
I = 0.605(11-34)
I = -13.915 kg-m/sec

Attempt:
Part B:

If the contact time = 0.0171 s, then:
F = Δp/Δt = I/Δt = -13.915 kg-m/sec/0.0171 s
F = -813.743 Nt
 
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blue5t1053 said:
Attempt:
Part A:
I = mvf - mvi
I = m(vf - vi)
I = 0.605(11-34)
I = -13.915 kg-m/sec
Incorrect: Realize that momentum is a vector. Direction (sign) counts! (Call up + and down -.)

Attempt:
Part B:

If the contact time = 0.0171 s, then:
F = Δp/Δt = I/Δt = -13.915 kg-m/sec/0.0171 s
F = -813.743 Nt
Right idea, but you need to fix part A first. Also: magnitudes are always positive.
 
Doc Al said:
Incorrect: Realize that momentum is a vector. Direction (sign) counts! (Call up + and down -.)


Right idea, but you need to fix part A first. Also: magnitudes are always positive.


You're right about the magnitude! Thanks, I forgot that.

So I have...

Re-Attempt:
Part A:

I = mvf - mvi
I = m(vf - vi)
I = 0.605(11-(-34))
I = 27.225 kg-m/sec

Re-Attempt:
Part B:

If the contact time = 0.0171 s, then:
F = Δp/Δt = I/Δt = 27.225 kg-m/sec/0.0171 s
F = 1592.11 Nt
 
Looks good! (The abbreviation for Newtons is just N, not Nt.)
 

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