Collision of block with spring w/ friction

[Selophane]

A moving 4.20 kg block collides with a horizontal spring whose spring constant is 270 N/m. The block compresses the spring a maximum distance of 4.00 cm from its rest position. The coefficient of kinetic friction between the block and the horizontal surface is 0.250. What is the work done by the spring in bringing the block to rest?

When I first tried this I assumed it was simply:

W = 0.5kx^2 = (0.5)(270)(0.04)^2 = 0.216 J

However the answer is not matching with the correct one, not sure where i went wrong on such a simple problem... sorry if this is too easy, which I'm sure it is...

btw, there is a 2nd and 3rd part of the question

2nd part:

How much mechanical energy is being dissipated by the force of friction while the block is being brought to rest by the spring?

I got this one right, simply: W = Ffs = (4.2)(9.81)(0.25)(0.04) = 0.412 J


finally, part 3:

What is the speed of the block when it hits the spring?

now i tried simply using (work of friction) = 0.5mv^2 but am not getting correct answer?

Thanks,
Chris

 

[PhanthomJay]

A moving 4.20 kg block collides with a horizontal spring whose spring constant is 270 N/m. The block compresses the spring a maximum distance of 4.00 cm from its rest position. The coefficient of kinetic friction between the block and the horizontal surface is 0.250. What is the work done by the spring in bringing the block to rest?

When I first tried this I assumed it was simply:

W = 0.5kx^2 = (0.5)(270)(0.04)^2 = 0.216 J

However the answer is not matching with the correct one, not sure where i went wrong on such a simple problem... sorry if this is too easy, which I'm sure it is...

btw, there is a 2nd and 3rd part of the question

2nd part:

How much mechanical energy is being dissipated by the force of friction while the block is being brought to rest by the spring?

I got this one right, simply: W = Ffs = (4.2)(9.81)(0.25)(0.04) = 0.412 J


finally, part 3:

What is the speed of the block when it hits the spring?

now i tried simply using (work of friction) = 0.5mv^2 but am not getting correct answer?

Thanks,
Chris

I get the same answer you do for part a.
For part c, what happened to the work done by the spring (its Potential Energy change) in your equation?

 

[Selophane]

Thanks for the prompt response!

Well glad to see I'm not crazy and kept getting same answer for A, but it's saying it is not correct (this is an online assignment)

For C, i assumed the spring didn't matter since it was just as it hit the spring? Perhaps I'm misunderstanding the problem. And if i do need to use answer from A, i cannot get correct answer since it is still giving our answer as incorrect.

thanks again,
Chris

 

[PhanthomJay]

Thanks for the prompt response!

Well glad to see I'm not crazy and kept getting same answer for A, but it's saying it is not correct (this is an online assignment)

For C, i assumed the spring didn't matter since it was just as it hit the spring? Perhaps I'm misunderstanding the problem. And if i do need to use answer from A, i cannot get correct answer since it is still giving our answer as incorrect.

thanks again,
Chris

The total energy equation is
Inititial mech. energy - work done by friction = final mech. energy

Since initially there is no PE, and in the end, no KE, then
KE_i -W_f = PE_f
1/2mv^2 - W_f = 1/2kx^2

You've already solved W_f and 1/2kx^2, so now solve for v.

BTW, the work done by a conservative force (like a spring force or gravity force) is equal to the change in PE. So your answer to part a is correct. What makes you think it is not, the book answer? Maybe you're a bit smarter than the book, yes?

 

[Selophane]

ah, thanks for the clarification on C, however this is an online assignment and it does say 0.216 J is wrong for A, and well I can't do much if its saying its incorrect, I'll have to let the teacher know I guess, thanks again, much appreciated!


-Chris

 

[Dorothy Weglend]

If the spring compresses, why won't it uncompress, push the block away? Friction will do the job of stopping it.

 

[PhanthomJay]

ah, thanks for the clarification on C, however this is an online assignment and it does say 0.216 J is wrong for A, and well I can't do much if its saying its incorrect, I'll have to let the teacher know I guess, thanks again, much appreciated!


-Chris

Ahh, try -.216J. That minus sign will do it. Sneaky!