Collision with projectile and block attached to spring

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The problem involves a collision between a projectile and a block attached to a spring, focusing on concepts of momentum, impulse, kinetic energy, and the effects of friction. The scenario is set in a frictionless environment, with specific parameters for mass, velocity, and spring constant provided.

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Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the calculation of impulse delivered to the block and the average force during the collision, with some questioning the definitions of variables used in the original poster's calculations.
  • There is an exploration of whether the collision is elastic, with participants examining the kinetic energy before and after the collision and expressing uncertainty about the calculations.
  • Some participants suggest the importance of defining vector directions in momentum calculations and recommend using diagrams for clarity.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing feedback on the original poster's calculations and questioning the assumptions made. There is a focus on clarifying the definitions of variables and the importance of vector direction in momentum analysis. No consensus has been reached regarding the correctness of the calculations or the nature of the collision.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the need for clarity in variable definitions and the significance of vector quantities in momentum calculations. There is also mention of the potential impact of friction on the block's motion, with a query about the criteria for a "small" coefficient of friction.

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Homework Statement


A projectile of mass m = 50g traveling at v0 = 20m/s hits a block of mass M = 450g. The block rests on
a frictionless horizontal surface and is attached to a spring of force constant k = 2000N/m. The projectile
ricochets backward off the block with speed v’ = 0.6v0. The collision lasts for 4ms.
(In the picture, the spring is attached to the block and the wall)
a) What impulse is delivered to the block and what is the average force for the collision?
b) Is the collision elastic? Justify your answer.
c) What is the maximum compression of the spring?
d) Suppose the surface has a “small” coefficient of friction μk = 0.1. Estimate the total distance the block
traverses from the moment it is struck to when it comes finally to rest. Why is this only an estimate? For
such an estimate to be accurate what is the criterion for “small” friction coefficient?

Homework Equations


p=mv
J=Δp
fav= Δp/Δt
KE=1/2mv2
Us=1/2kd2
(maybe?) vrel=-v'rel

The Attempt at a Solution


a)
momentum: mv0=mv'+Mv2'

impulse on block: J=Δp=p2-p1 --> p2= mv0 - mv' = .4mv0 = .4 N⋅s

fav= Δp/Δt = 100 N

b)
KE= 1/2 m v2
KE' +1/2mv'2+1/2Mv2'2

KE'/KE = [m(.6v0)+M(v0-.6v0)2] / mv02

=(.6)2 + (.450)(.4)2(.05) =>.40 --> 60% KE loss. non- elasticand this is where I am second guessing myself.
 
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Can't follow your working if you make up variables like p1, p2 etc. and don't define them.
Your answer to a) is wrong. Please explain your working in detail.
For part b), how are you calculating v2'?
 
x24759 said:
impulse on block: J=Δp=p2-p1 --> p2= mv0 - mv' = .4mv0 = .4 N⋅s

a) While the idea is not wrong here, you have forgotten to take into account that momentum is a vector quantity, which means that direction is important. Hence, it is important to define what direction you will be taking as positive and stick with that convention throughout your working. A diagram will help you here if you have trouble visualizing.

b) The problem that I mentioned above manifests in your working for part (b) as well. Look through the directions and signs of your vector quantities again.
 

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