Collision, spring and impulse

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The discussion centers on a physics problem involving an 8-g bullet and a 4.0-kg block in a perfectly inelastic collision on a frictionless surface. The initial speed of the bullet is calculated to be 290 cm/s, while the impulse of the block, including the bullet, due to the spring is determined to be 4.7 N.s. The solution involves applying the principles of conservation of momentum and energy, specifically using the equations for perfectly inelastic collisions and spring energy conservation.

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Homework Statement



An 8-g bullet is shot into a 4.0-kg block, at rest on a frictionless horizontal surface. The bullet remains lodged in the block. The block moves into a spring and compresses it by 3.0 cm. The force constant of the spring is 1500 N/m. Find the initial speed of the bullet, and the impulse of the block (including the bullet), due to the spring, during the entire time interval in which block and spring are in contact.

The correct answers are 290cm/s for the initial speed of the bullet and 4.7 N.s for the impulse of the block.

Homework Equations


Perfectly inelastic collision
m1v1i + m2v2i = (m1 + m2)vf

Energy conservation
(1/2)(m)(v^2) = (1/2)(k)(x^2)

The Attempt at a Solution


With these simultaneous equations,
8/1000 vbullet_initial == (4 + (8/1000))vfinal
(1/2) (4 + (8/1000)) (vfinal^2) == (1/2) (1500) (0.03^2)
I found the speed of the bullet and the speed of the combined masses after impact.
vbullet_initial -> 290.764, vfinal -> 0.580367

I know how to find vbullet_initial, but the problem comes with the second part. If the impulse is change in momentum, m * deltav, I get (4 + (8/1000))(0.58) which is 2.32 N.s. I calculated this as if the change in velocity will result in the block with the embedded bullet being stopped by the spring. Could someone please explain to me why I only get half of the correct value? I get 2.32N.s, and the correct answer is 4.7N.s (2*2.32 rounded off).

[Solved]
Once the block comes to v->0 due to the spring, it pushes it back the other way and conservation of energy makes the impulse = mv -- mv = 2mv.
 
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