Collision Velocity Calculation for Box Cars

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The problem involves a collision between two box cars, one with a mass of 24,000 kg traveling north at 2 m/s and another with a mass of 18,000 kg. After the collision, the two box cars lock together and move south at 1 m/s. The objective is to determine the velocity of the 18,000 kg box car before the collision.

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  • Participants discuss the initial and final velocities of the box cars and the implications of choosing a direction for the velocity vector. There are attempts to relate the problem to a similar scenario involving different masses and velocities, raising questions about the clarity of the problem statement.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants offering different perspectives on the problem setup and raising questions about the definitions of initial and final velocities. Some guidance has been provided regarding the choice of direction for velocity, but no consensus has been reached on the specific calculations or interpretations.

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There is some ambiguity in the problem statement, as noted by participants, which may affect the understanding of initial and final velocities. The discussion reflects a need for clarity in the definitions used in the problem.

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Homework Statement




A 24,000 kg box car traveling north at 2 m/s collides with an 18,000 kg box car. Upon collision the two box cars lock together. What is the velocity of the 18,000 box car before the collision if after the collision the two box cars are traveling south at 1 m/s?


Homework Equations



MaVai + MbVBi = MaMaf + MbVbf

The Attempt at a Solution

 
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initially for object a (with mass ma) you have an initial velocity of 2 m/s , after collision they are locked together (so they have the same final velocity) with velocity 1m/s..

you have got everything , make proper choice for the direction (since the velocity is a vector quantity, e.g you can choose the north to be your positive y-axes and the south is the negative) ..

I think it is clear from there .. :)
 
stargirl17 said:

Homework Statement




A 24,000 kg box car traveling north at 2 m/s collides with an 18,000 kg box car. Upon collision the two box cars lock together. What is the velocity of the 18,000 box car before the collision if after the collision the two box cars are traveling south at 1 m/s?


Homework Equations



MaVai + MbVBi = MaMaf + MbVbf

The Attempt at a Solution


I won't solve your problem, but i will demonstrate a similar situation, and from there you can use some of that brain matter ;)

we have a van of 1000kg which lock into a collision with another van at 20 m/s into a second van of 1200kg which is moving at 5m/s. We use the equation p=Mv to calculate the resultant force.

Before collision, we have 1000 x 20(+1200 x 0) = 1000 x v(1200 x 5)

=20,000 = 1000 x v +6000

so 6000 - 20,000 is 14,000 = 1000 x v

so the impact of velocity is 14m/s through conversion of units.
 
what is v_A,f ... and what is v_B,f ... ?
 
I assume she has meant initial and final velocity. It's all written quite terribly.
 

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