Color of Microscopic Particles?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around whether molecules, atoms, and subatomic particles possess color, and if so, how this can be determined at microscopic scales. Participants explore the relevance of color in the context of atomic and subatomic structures, as well as the limitations of electron microscopy in observing these properties.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that color for atoms and molecules can be defined through their spectral lines, which are the wavelengths of light emitted when these species are excited.
  • Others argue that color can arise from either emitted light (luminous bodies) or reflected light, depending on the incident light and the absorption characteristics of the material.
  • A participant notes that electron microscopes do not see color or electrons directly; instead, the color observed is due to the phosphor used in the detector.
  • Another viewpoint emphasizes that the concept of "having color" is ambiguous and depends on the context of light emission, absorption, or scattering by the particles.
  • One participant points out a misunderstanding regarding electron microscopes, clarifying that they utilize electrons to view objects rather than observing electrons themselves.
  • It is mentioned that while atoms and molecules can emit a spectrum of electromagnetic radiation, elementary particles like electrons do not exhibit unique characteristics in the same way.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the definition of color at microscopic scales, the capabilities of electron microscopy, and the nature of light emission from atomic and subatomic particles. No consensus is reached on these points.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights limitations in understanding color at microscopic levels, including the dependence on definitions of color and the conditions under which light is emitted or absorbed. There are also unresolved questions regarding the interpretation of observations made with electron microscopes.

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Do molecules, atoms, and subatomic particles have color? If so, what? Is it even possible to determine if they do or not (Can electron microscopes see electrons?)? Is color even relevant at lengths this small? I would elaborate more but these questions are fairly straightforward.
 
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For atoms and molecules color can be defined as the spectral lines of the given species.
 
Color is either (a) from light emitted by the object - a luminous body, or (b) from light reflected by the body.

Atoms and molecules emit different wavelengths of light when excited differently; these are the spectral lines referred to by mathman. For example you can generate the spectrum for different atoms and their ions at this NIST site, and "see" what colors they would emit under varying conditions: http://physics.nist.gov/PhysRefData/ASD/lines_form.html

An elementary discussion can be found here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emission_spectrum
In addition they show the spectral lines for hydrogen and iron.

The absorption spectrum is also of interest: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Absorption_spectrum

For case (b), the reflected light, this depends upon the incident light, and which color are absorbed by the reflecting body - whatever is not absorbed, some will be scattered back to you and will provide the color. An apple observed under different lighting conditions will have different colors - which is why artists like to vary the lighting.

Finally, to answer your question: no, electron microscopes don't see color, nor do they see electrons. I've done a lot of work with both, and the color you will see is due to the phosphor at the detector; green is quite popular!
 
RyanXXVI said:
Do molecules, atoms, and subatomic particles have color? If so, what? Is it even possible to determine if they do or not (Can electron microscopes see electrons?)? Is color even relevant at lengths this small? I would elaborate more but these questions are fairly straightforward.

Each animal need radiation to see the objects. I think molecules, atoms, and subatomic particles will be seen to have different colors depending on the radiation or radiations used to see them. They don't have a permanent color. I can't say anything with certainty, I mean don't believe me completely.
 
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RyanXXVI said:
Do molecules, atoms, and subatomic particles have color? If so, what? Is it even possible to determine if they do or not (Can electron microscopes see electrons?)? Is color even relevant at lengths this small? I would elaborate more but these questions are fairly straightforward.

It depends on what you mean by "have color".
Molecules, atoms, and smaller can be made to emit, absorb, and/or scatter light of various wavelengths, and you could call that "having a color" if you wish... but this property bears no resemblance to our intuitive notion of color as something that you perceive when you look at a macroscopic object.
 
RyanXXVI said:
Do molecules, atoms, and subatomic particles have color? If so, what? Is it even possible to determine if they do or not (Can electron microscopes see electrons?)? Is color even relevant at lengths this small? I would elaborate more but these questions are fairly straightforward.

There a rather fundamental misunderstanding here that makes this question a bit vague.

First of all, an electron microscope DOES NOT observe electrons. It USES electrons, instead of light as in the regular optical microscope, to view objects.

Secondly, what you should ask that makes this a clearer physics question is whether atoms, molecules, particles, etc emit EM radiation, and if they emit such radiation with a unique characteristics. This makes it clearer because "color" in this context simply means an EM radiation of a particular frequency.

As has been stated, atoms and molecules emit a SPECTRUM of EM frequency, most of these are of a unique set. This is why we could identify the elements and make up of celestial objects.

On the other hand, elementary particles do not often have such uniqueness. I can take a bunch of electrons and shake them up and down at different frequencies and produce different frequencies of EM radiation. Electrons have been used in accelerators and synchrotron centers to produce EM radiation ranging from IR all the way to hard x-rays.

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