Coloumb's Law problem (calculating Electrical force on a charge)

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The discussion revolves around the application of Coulomb's Law to calculate the electrical force on charges in a specific configuration. The original poster presents two problems involving positive and negative charges arranged in an equilateral triangle and seeks clarification on the calculations involved.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the calculation of electrical force on a specific charge and question the treatment of negative charges in Coulomb's Law. There are attempts to apply Coulomb's Law and vector addition to find the resultant forces acting on the charges.

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Some participants have provided guidance on how to approach the problems, including suggestions for calculating forces as vectors. There is ongoing exploration of the correct application of angles and the resultant forces, with some participants expressing uncertainty about their calculations.

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Participants note the lack of given electric field values and question assumptions about angles in the context of an equilateral triangle. There is also mention of a discrepancy between calculated and expected results, prompting further inquiry into the methods used.

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1st Problem

Two positive charges, each 4.18C, and a negative charge, -6.36C are fixed at the vertices of an equilateral triangle of side 0.13m.
Find the electrical force on the negative charge.

I don't know how to calculate electrical force on a specific charge :-S
and please explain why we take negative charge always as positive ?

please explain in detail why we take negative charge always as positive when applying coulomb's law.

2nd problem:

two charges q1 and q2, held a fixed distance d apart. (a) Find the strength of electric force that acts on qi. Assume that q1=q2=21.3C and distance=1.52m
(b)
A third charge q3=21.3C is brought in and placed as shown in figure, find the electric force on q1 now.

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i've solved part (a) of the 2nd problem but i don't know how to solve the second part of it :-S
please explain

( I don't want the answers of these problems , i just need some help and explanation )
 

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Welcome to PF!

Hi XuFyaN! Welcome to PF! :smile:
XuFyaN said:
I don't know how to calculate electrical force on a specific charge :-S

If E is the field and q is the charge, the the force is F = qE.
and please explain why we take negative charge always as positive ?

please explain in detail why we take negative charge always as positive when applying coulomb's law.

I don't understand what you mean. :confused:
two charges q1 and q2, held a fixed distance d apart. (a) Find the strength of electric force that acts on qi. Assume that q1=q2=21.3C and distance=1.52m
(b)
A third charge q3=21.3C is brought in and placed as shown in figure, find the electric force on q1 now.

i've solved part (a) of the 2nd problem but i don't know how to solve the second part of it

Find the force on q1 as if q3 wasn't there, and the force on q1 as if q2 wasn't there.

That will give you two vectors, so add those vectors (either by adding the components, or by using a vector triangle ). :smile:
 


for Problem 1:

no E is given there :-S , how can i solve it ?
first i applied coloumb's law on two charges q1 and q2 , what should be the next step ?

for problem 2

i have solved (a) part by using F=kq1q2/r2
and got the answer 1.76N , but for part (b),
i don't know how to find the strength of the electric force on q1 charge ?

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part (b) of 2nd problem has been solved but i don't know its correct or incorrect , please have a look
F1= F12+F13sin45
F1=1.76+1.76(0.707)
F1=3.00N

is it correct or incorrect ?
 
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please reply
 
XuFyaN said:
part (b) of 2nd problem has been solved but i don't know its correct or incorrect , please have a look
F1= F12+F13sin45
F1=1.76+1.76(0.707)
F1=3.00N

(is it 45º? the original question was about an equilateral triangle (3 x 60º), is this the same?)

No, you've assumed the resultant force is along one of the sides, it isn't.
 
so should i have to multiply sin60 by 3 ??
bec0z according to b0ok the answer is 3.02N and i am not getting this correct :(
 
XuFyaN said:
so should i have to multiply sin60 by 3 ??

Stop guessing! :rolleyes:

Which direction do you think the total force is in?
 

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