Calculating heat req. by fuel in boiler, interpolation needed.

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The discussion revolves around calculating the heat required by fuel in a boiler, with a focus on the efficiency of the boiler and the energy changes involved in the process of converting feed water to superheated steam. The subject area includes thermodynamics and heat transfer principles.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants explore the calculation of heat required by fuel based on enthalpy values for feed water and steam. There is an attempt to reconcile different methods of calculating the required heat, leading to questions about the implications of boiler efficiency on these calculations.

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Some participants have provided insights into the discrepancies in the calculations, particularly regarding the interpretation of efficiency and how it affects the heat required from the fuel. There is ongoing clarification about the correct approach to account for efficiency losses.

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Participants are working within the constraints of the given efficiency of 82% and the specific enthalpy values for the feed water and steam. There is a noted confusion about how to properly adjust calculations to reflect the efficiency of the boiler.

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1) Feed water enters a boiler at 172.52 degrees Celsius. The boiler produces super heated steam at 5600kpa and 472 degrees Celsius. The boiler efficiency is 82%. Find the Heat required by fuel.

2)
I interpolated the value given for feed water and super heated steam.

h@5600kpa 472 degrees Celsius = 3359.0128 kj/kg
hf@ 172.52 degrees Celsius = 730.30 kj/kg

So...

delta h = 3359.0128 kj/kg - 730.30kj/kg
delta h = 2628.7128 kj/kg (this is the energy that the boiler would produce running at 100% to make the given steam right?)

So...

Qfuel = (2628.7128 kj/kg)(1.18) (I'm multiplying by 1.18 to make up for the 18% efficiency difference)
Qfuel = 3101.88 kj/kgefficiency = Qsteam/Qfuel
.82 = 2628.7128/Qfuel

Qfuel = 3205.07 kj/kg3) I get two different answers for quantity of heat required by fuel. Can someone please explain why? Thank you.
 
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mt05 said:
2)
I interpolated the value given for feed water and super heated steam.

h@5600kpa 472 degrees Celsius = 3359.0128 kj/kg
hf@ 172.52 degrees Celsius = 730.30 kj/kg

So...

delta h = 3359.0128 kj/kg - 730.30kj/kg
delta h = 2628.7128 kj/kg (this is the energy that the boiler would produce running at 100% to make the given steam right?)

So...

Qfuel = (2628.7128 kj/kg)(1.18) (I'm multiplying by 1.18 to make up for the 18% efficiency difference)
Qfuel = 3101.88 kj/kg


efficiency = Qsteam/Qfuel
.82 = 2628.7128/Qfuel

Qfuel = 3205.07 kj/kg


3) I get two different answers for quantity of heat required by fuel. Can someone please explain why? Thank you.


The temperatures that you are given are based on the 82% efficiency.

82% will give dh as 2628.7128 kJ/kg
100% will give 2628.718/0.82

which is the same as your last method.
 
hmm sorry, I still am not following

dh = 2628.718 (this is the amount of heat made by the boiler to make 5600kpa and 472 degrees Celsius of steam) boiler running at a 82% efficiency.

18% of heat from the fuel is lost correct?

So why couldn't I take 2628.718 and multiply that by 1.18 to make up the missing 18% of heat lost by the fuel thus giving me the total heat of the fuel required.

I just don't understand why I can't do this.
 
mt05 said:
hmm sorry, I still am not following

dh = 2628.718 (this is the amount of heat made by the boiler to make 5600kpa and 472 degrees Celsius of steam) boiler running at a 82% efficiency.

18% of heat from the fuel is lost correct?

So why couldn't I take 2628.718 and multiply that by 1.18 to make up the missing 18% of heat lost by the fuel thus giving me the total heat of the fuel required.

I just don't understand why I can't do this.

Because what you'd be doing is this 2628.718(1)+2628.718(0.18), you'd be adding the value at the 82% efficiency to 18% of the 82% efficiency value.Which is incorrect.
 
ah yes that makes sense. Thanks for the help!
 

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