Combinatorics: Spreading Rumors and Probability

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves a scenario where a rumor is spread among a fixed group of 10 people, with the question focusing on the probability that the original person, A, receives the third call after starting the rumor.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants are exploring the interpretation of the problem, particularly regarding the fixed nature of the group and the implications for how the rumor can be spread. There is confusion about whether A can call anyone outside the group or if the calls must remain within the original ten people.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively questioning the assumptions of the problem, particularly the definition of the group of people involved in spreading the rumor. Some guidance has been offered regarding the fixed group of ten, but there remains uncertainty about the mechanics of the rumor spreading process.

Contextual Notes

There is a noted confusion regarding the setup of the problem, specifically whether the set of people who can be called remains constant or changes with each call. This has led to a humorous acknowledgment of the limitations of the problem's assumptions.

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Homework Statement


A rumor is spread randomly among a group of 10 people by successively having one person call someone, who calls someone and so on. A person can pass the rumor on to anyone except the individual who just called.

What is the probability that if A starts the rumor, A receives the third call?

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The Attempt at a Solution


I'm having difficulty getting started with this one. If person A starts the rumor, then the way the question is worded, it would appear that A could choose any ten people that happen to live on planet Earth who happens to own a telephone. So that's got me real confused and I don't know how to start.
 
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Hi Shoney45! :smile:
Shoney45 said:
A rumor is spread randomly among a group of 10 people by successively having one person call someone, who calls someone and so on.

If person A starts the rumor, then the way the question is worded, it would appear that A could choose any ten people that happen to live on planet Earth who happens to own a telephone. So that's got me real confused and I don't know how to start.

No, it means a fixed group of 10 people. :wink:
 
tiny-tim said:
Hi Shoney45! :smile:


No, it means a fixed group of 10 people. :wink:

Cheers Tiny Tim! And thanks for your smiles!

So are you understanding the problem to say that the set of people which can be called to spread the rumor to consists of only ten people? So in other words, if A starts the rumor, and then calls those ten people, are you understanding the question to mean that that set of people who can be called with the rumor is the same set of ten people who were just called and given the rumor, and so on for any successive calls?

It doesn't much sound like rumor spreading to me, but if that is the problem then I will go with it.
 
Hi Shoney45! :smile:
Shoney45 said:
It doesn't much sound like rumor spreading to me, but if that is the problem then I will go with it.

The people who set these questions only know approximately nine other people. :wink:
 
tiny-tim said:
Hi Shoney45! :smile:


The people who set these questions only know approximately nine other people. :wink:

Sweet! Well, I guess I'll wrestle with the problem under this set of shiny new asumptions.
 

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