Commutator, operators momentum and position

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The discussion revolves around calculating the commutator of position and momentum operators, specifically [X,P]. The original poster expresses uncertainty about the definitions and implications of these operators in quantum mechanics.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants explore the definition of the commutator and its properties. The original poster attempts to compute the commutator using the definitions of position and momentum operators, while others suggest computing the commutator acting on an arbitrary wavefunction to clarify the process.

Discussion Status

Some participants provide guidance on using the product rule for differentiation when computing the commutator. There is acknowledgment of the original poster's findings, but no explicit consensus on the implications of the results has been reached.

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There is a focus on the definitions of operators and their actions on wavefunctions, with some participants questioning the assumptions made in the original poster's calculations.

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Homework Statement


I must calculate [X,P].

Homework Equations


Not sure. What I've researched through the Internet suggests that [tex][\hat A, \hat B]=\hat A \hat B - \hat B \hat A[/tex] and that [tex][\hat A, \hat B]=-[\hat B, \hat A][/tex].
Furthermore if the operators commute, then [tex][\hat A, \hat B]=0[/tex] obviously from the anterior property.

The Attempt at a Solution



So I've checked out in wikipedia the definition of position and momentum operators and they seems to involve the wave function [tex]\Psi[/tex]?

If I consider [tex]\hat X =x[/tex] and [tex]\hat P =-i\hbar \frac{\partial}{\partial x}[/tex], I get that [tex]\hat X\hat P =-i \hbar[/tex] but for [tex]\hat P \hat X[/tex] I have a doubt.
I get that it's worth [tex]x \left ( - \frac{i \hbar \partial}{\partial x} \right )[/tex]. I'm guessing it's worth [tex]-i\hbar[/tex]? So that if follows that [tex][\hat X,\hat P]=0[/tex] and hence the position and linear momentum commute. I'm not sure I'm right on this, nor do I have any idea about some of the implications the commutativity implies.
Any insight is greatly appreciated.
 
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To avoid confusion, compute this commutator acting on an arbitrary wavefunction:

[tex][\hat{X},\hat{P}]\Psi.[/tex]

As a differential operator, [tex]\hat{P}[/tex] acts on everything to the right, so the term

[tex]\hat{P}\hat{X} \Psi = \hat{P}(\hat{X} \Psi),[/tex]

so you need to use the product rule.
 
fzero said:
To avoid confusion, compute this commutator acting on an arbitrary wavefunction:

[tex][\hat{X},\hat{P}]\Psi.[/tex]

As a differential operator, [tex]\hat{P}[/tex] acts on everything to the right, so the term

[tex]\hat{P}\hat{X} \Psi = \hat{P}(\hat{X} \Psi),[/tex]

so you need to use the product rule.

Thank you so much. I'm so glad I've asked on this forum, I would have done meaningless work without you.
I reach, after some basic alegebra: [tex][\hat X, \hat P] \Psi =i \hbar \Psi[/tex]. So the 2 operators do not commute.
Am I right?
 
fluidistic said:
Thank you so much. I'm so glad I've asked on this forum, I would have done meaningless work without you.
I reach, after some basic alegebra: [tex][\hat X, \hat P] \Psi =i \hbar \Psi[/tex]. So the 2 operators do not commute.
Am I right?

Correct. Also, since the function [tex]\Psi[/tex] is arbitrary, you can turn this into an operator statement:

[tex][\hat X, \hat P] =i \hbar \hat{I},[/tex]

where [tex]\hat{I}[/tex] is the identity operator.
 
fzero said:
Correct. Also, since the function [tex]\Psi[/tex] is arbitrary, you can turn this into an operator statement:

[tex][\hat X, \hat P] =i \hbar \hat{I},[/tex]

where [tex]\hat{I}[/tex] is the identity operator.

Nice. Problem solved.
 

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