Compact form for an infinite multiplication

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The discussion revolves around expressing an infinite product related to Pi, as encountered in the context of Franciscus Vieta's work. Participants explore the challenge of writing this infinite product in a more compact mathematical notation.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the possibility of compactly expressing an infinite product involving recursive sequences and Pi notation. There are attempts to define a recursive sequence and relate it to the infinite product, while others express skepticism about the existence of a unique compact form.

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The conversation is ongoing, with various interpretations being explored. Some participants have suggested using recursive expressions combined with Pi notation, while others have noted the lack of a unique mathematical tool for compact representation in this case.

Contextual Notes

There is mention of a specific infinite product related to Pi, and one participant suggests considering alternative infinite products, such as the Wallis product, indicating a broader context of exploration.

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Hi,
In the middle of the article about Franciscus Vieta, here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franciscus_Vieta

I see an infinite product as an expression for Pi:
2 * 2/2^(1/2) * 2/(2+(2^(1/2))^(1/2) * ...

I was wondering, how this could be written in compact form using math notation please?
 
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cncnewbee said:
Hi,
In the middle of the article about Franciscus Vieta, here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franciscus_Vieta

I see an infinite product as an expression for Pi:
2 * 2/2^(1/2) * 2/(2+(2^(1/2))^(1/2) * ...

I was wondering, how this could be written in compact form using math notation please?
I don't think you can write [itex]\displaystyle 2\times\frac{2}{\sqrt{2}}\times\frac{2}{\sqrt{2+ \sqrt{2}}}\times\frac{2}{\sqrt{2+\sqrt{2+\sqrt{2}}}}\times\frac{2}{\sqrt{2+\sqrt{2+\sqrt{2+\sqrt{2}}}}}\times\cdots[/itex] in compact form.
 
Indeed, I don't think any specific notation can help simplify this ... er ... "continued fraction."

I would define the recursive sequence [itex]S_n[/itex] such that:

[itex] S_0 = 1\\<br /> S_1 = \sqrt2\\<br /> S_{k+1} = \sqrt{2+S_k}\text{ where } k>0\\[/itex]

and use that sequence and capital pi notation to shorten the equation for [itex]\pi[/itex] into the infinite product:

[itex] \pi=\prod \limits_{i=0}^{\infty} \frac{2}{S_i}[/itex]

But then again, this seems more convoluted than compact.
 
Thank you all, I learned from your answers that the other way of expressing that is by using a recursive expression combined together with Pi (∏) notation and that there is no unique tool in math-notation for a compact form in this case.
 
I don't know if you want this particular formula for pi or any infinite product will do.

If another is acceptable Google Wallis product.
 

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