Compactness of a Closed Ball in C([0,1])

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The discussion revolves around the compactness of the closed ball in the space of continuous functions, denoted as C([0,1]), centered at 0 with a radius of 1. Participants are examining the properties of a sequence of functions defined as f_n(x) = x^n and its implications for compactness.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants explore the continuity of the sequence of functions f_n and question whether this sequence converges in the context of the sup metric. There is a discussion about the nature of convergence and the distinction between pointwise and uniform convergence.

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The conversation is active, with participants questioning the continuity of the functions and the implications of their limits on the compactness of the closed unit ball. Some guidance has been offered regarding the nature of convergence in C([0,1]), and there is an ongoing exploration of whether subsequences of f_n exhibit uniform convergence.

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Participants are navigating the definitions of continuity and convergence in the context of functional analysis, specifically within the framework of C([0,1]) and the sup metric. There is an acknowledgment of the potential for misunderstanding regarding the behavior of the sequence f_n.

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Show that the closed ball in ##C([0,1])## of center ##0## and radius ##1## is not compact.2. The attempt at a solution

I was given a hint, to look at the sequence of continuous functions ##f_n(x) = x^n## on the closed ball in ##C([0,1])##. Why is that sequence continuous? Isn't it discontinuous in the closed ball ##[0,1]##?
 
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Lee33 said:

Homework Statement



Show that the closed ball in ##C([0,1])## of center ##0## and radius ##1## is not compact.


2. The attempt at a solution

I was given a hint, to look at the sequence of continuous functions ##f_n(x) = x^n## on the closed ball in ##C([0,1])##. Why is that sequence continuous? Isn't it discontinuous in the closed ball ##[0,1]##?

Continuity is not a notion that applies to sequences. Convergence is.

I assume you are using the sup metric, d(f,g) = \sup \{|f(x) - g(x)| : x \in [0,1]\}.

The function f_n : x \mapsto x^n is continuous (indeed, differentiable) on [0,1] for any n \in \mathbb{N}. Hence f_n \in C([0,1]). It is straightforward to show that d(f_n,0) = 1, so f_n is in the closed unit ball for all n.

The question is: Does this sequence converge to a limit in C([0,1]) or not? Does it have any subsequences which do? And what does this tell you about the compactness of the closed unit ball in C([0,1])?
 
But I thought ##f_n : x \mapsto x^n## is not continuous on ##[0,1]## since ##
f(x) = \begin{cases} 1 & \quad \text{if }x= 1 \\ 0 & \quad \text{if }x\in [0,1) \\ \end{cases}##
 
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But I thought ##f_n : x \mapsto x^n## is not continuous on ##[0,1]## since ##
f(x) = \begin{cases} 1 & \quad \text{if }x= 1 \\ 0 & \quad \text{if }x\in [0,1) \\ \end{cases}##

##f_n## is a polynomial and is continuous for all ##x##. Surely you know that. All polynomials are.
 
LCKurtz - Wow, you're right! I should go run outside and clear my mind. Very dumb mistake by me. Thank you both!
 
What you wrote down is the pointwise limit of ##(f_n)## and indeed the pointwise limit is discontinuous. However ##f_n## is continuous for all ##n##.

Regardless, does the uniform limit of ##(f_n)## exist? Furthermore, does any subsequence ##(f_{n_k})## of ##(f_n)## have a uniform limit? Recall that convergence in ##C([0,1])## is uniform convergence in ##[0,1]##. And if no ##(f_{n_k})## has a uniform limit then what does that tell you about sequential compactness of the closed unit ball in ##C([0,1])##?
 
Thank you, WannabeNewton! I know what to do now. Since it is not sequentially compact, therefore it is not compact.
 

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