Compactness of a Closed Ball in C([0,1])

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Homework Statement



Show that the closed ball in ##C([0,1])## of center ##0## and radius ##1## is not compact.2. The attempt at a solution

I was given a hint, to look at the sequence of continuous functions ##f_n(x) = x^n## on the closed ball in ##C([0,1])##. Why is that sequence continuous? Isn't it discontinuous in the closed ball ##[0,1]##?
 
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Homework Statement



Show that the closed ball in ##C([0,1])## of center ##0## and radius ##1## is not compact.


2. The attempt at a solution

I was given a hint, to look at the sequence of continuous functions ##f_n(x) = x^n## on the closed ball in ##C([0,1])##. Why is that sequence continuous? Isn't it discontinuous in the closed ball ##[0,1]##?

Continuity is not a notion that applies to sequences. Convergence is.

I assume you are using the sup metric, [itex]d(f,g) = \sup \{|f(x) - g(x)| : x \in [0,1]\}[/itex].

The function [itex]f_n : x \mapsto x^n[/itex] is continuous (indeed, differentiable) on [itex][0,1][/itex] for any [itex]n \in \mathbb{N}[/itex]. Hence [itex]f_n \in C([0,1])[/itex]. It is straightforward to show that [itex]d(f_n,0) = 1[/itex], so [itex]f_n[/itex] is in the closed unit ball for all [itex]n[/itex].

The question is: Does this sequence converge to a limit in [itex]C([0,1])[/itex] or not? Does it have any subsequences which do? And what does this tell you about the compactness of the closed unit ball in [itex]C([0,1])[/itex]?
 
But I thought ##f_n : x \mapsto x^n## is not continuous on ##[0,1]## since ##
f(x) = \begin{cases} 1 & \quad \text{if }x= 1 \\ 0 & \quad \text{if }x\in [0,1) \\ \end{cases}##
 
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But I thought ##f_n : x \mapsto x^n## is not continuous on ##[0,1]## since ##
f(x) = \begin{cases} 1 & \quad \text{if }x= 1 \\ 0 & \quad \text{if }x\in [0,1) \\ \end{cases}##

##f_n## is a polynomial and is continuous for all ##x##. Surely you know that. All polynomials are.
 
LCKurtz - Wow, you're right! I should go run outside and clear my mind. Very dumb mistake by me. Thank you both!
 
What you wrote down is the pointwise limit of ##(f_n)## and indeed the pointwise limit is discontinuous. However ##f_n## is continuous for all ##n##.

Regardless, does the uniform limit of ##(f_n)## exist? Furthermore, does any subsequence ##(f_{n_k})## of ##(f_n)## have a uniform limit? Recall that convergence in ##C([0,1])## is uniform convergence in ##[0,1]##. And if no ##(f_{n_k})## has a uniform limit then what does that tell you about sequential compactness of the closed unit ball in ##C([0,1])##?
 
Thank you, WannabeNewton! I know what to do now. Since it is not sequentially compact, therefore it is not compact.
 

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