Compare graphs of a^x and x^a - pretty simple,

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The original poster attempts to compare the functions \( f(x) = x^{7} \) and \( g(x) = 7^{x} \) by graphing them, specifically looking for points of intersection and analyzing their growth rates.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the number of intersection points, with the original poster claiming to find only one intersection, while the problem states there should be two. Some participants suggest checking specific values, such as \( x = 7 \), to explore the functions further.

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Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of numerical methods, such as the Newton-Raphson technique, to find intersections. There is an acknowledgment of differing interpretations of the problem, particularly regarding the number of intersections and the methods available for finding them.

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The original poster expresses confusion over the expected number of intersections and mentions a lack of familiarity with certain mathematical techniques, indicating a potential gap in understanding or assumptions about the functions involved.

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Homework Statement


Compare the functions [tex]\; f(x)=x^{7} \;[/tex] and [tex]\; g(x) = 7^{x} \;[/tex] by graphing both functions.

A) find all points of intersection (there is suppose to be 2)

B) Which graph grows larger

I need help with A


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Just graph this in any graphing program/calculator, I find that they only intersect once. The intersection I found is at (1.529,19.5), other than that they do not intersect yet the question insists that it intersects twice. Can someone please tell me what I am doing wrong here?
 
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What about x=7 ?
do both functions give the same result ? :)

P.S.
Is there an analytic way to solve the following equation?

[tex] y=\left (\frac{1}{ln^{7}(7)} \right )ln^{7}(y)[/tex]
 
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There is another one that is easy to spot. I found the answer you did by applying the Newton Rapson technique, I found it to be at x=1.5301 to 12 orders of precision. You could apply the same technique with x=10 and start from there and the solution will jump out at you, it's an integer solution.

The Newton Raphson technique reads in this case:
[tex] x_{n+1}=x_{n}-\frac{x_{n}^{7}-7^{x_{n}}}{7x_{n}^{6}-7^{x_{n}}\ln 7}[/tex]
 
ha, yes yes, thank you gomunkul51 I gots it now
 
hunt_mat, never seen that formula, looks interesting, ill look into it.
 
What hunt_man refers to by the name "Newton Rapson technique" is also known as Newton's Method:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newton's_method

*basically it is a method in which you start at a random point and find a linear approximation of the non linear function, done repeatedly until you get to needed accuracy.
 
oh, well then nevermind, i guess i just didn't see 'Newtons method' when it wasn't in its generic form, I have used Newtons method before but I am just starting my 'formal' calculus class so that's why i wasn't prepared to use it, we haven't gotten there yet!

This summer I was teaching myself calculus and had reached that section in my prior studies though, just forgot about it.

thanks though!
 

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