Compare torque from force applied at different points

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The problem involves comparing the torque produced by two equal forces applied to a door at different points: one at the midpoint and the other at the doorknob, both applied perpendicularly. The discussion centers on understanding how the position of the applied force affects torque.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to determine which force produces greater torque and expresses a preference for the force applied at the doorknob. Other participants discuss the relationship between force, position, and torque, referencing the mathematical expression for torque.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided affirmations regarding the original poster's reasoning, and there is a mention of the mathematical basis for torque calculation. However, the discussion does not reach a definitive conclusion on the comparison of torques.

Contextual Notes

Participants are exploring the implications of applying forces at different points on the door, questioning the assumptions about torque and its dependence on the distance from the pivot point.

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Homework Statement


Two equal forces are applied to a door. The first force is applied at the midpoint of the door; the second force is applied at the doorknob. Both forces are applied perpendicular to the door. Which force exerts the greater torque?

A) The first force at the midpoint of the door.

B) The second force at the doorknob.

C) Both forces exert equal non-zero torques on the door.

D) Both forces exert zero torque on the door.

The Attempt at a Solution


I think it's B. Would this be correct?

Thanks!
 
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Indeed, you are correct. The torque is given by the cross product of the force vector and the position vector of the applied force. Since the force is applied orthogonal to the door this simplifies to T = F*r.
 
or as archimedes once said, give me a place to stand and a long enough lever, ...
 
Thank you! :)
 

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