Comparing Gas Stoichiometry Approaches: Which One is Correct?

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The discussion centers on two approaches to solving gas stoichiometry problems using the ideal gas law (PV=nRT). The first approach involves calculating the molar volume at standard ambient temperature and pressure (SATP) as 24.76 L and multiplying it by 65 L to obtain 1609.4 L, which is then used in the equation. The second approach directly uses the 65 L in the equation without modification. The consensus indicates that the second approach is correct, as it maintains unit consistency and directly applies the ideal gas law without unnecessary conversions.

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So iv solved all these problems, id just like someone to take a look at them and see which approach is right.

The question is in the attachment.

first approach is i use molar volume for SATP which is 24.76L and multiply 65L with it
and i get 1609.4L then i use this in the universal gas formula(i think that's what its called)

PV=nRT

(100)(1609.4) = n(8.31)(298)

(100)(1609.4)/(8.31)(298) = n


second approach i use is where i just use the 65L of volume as is and put it in the equation, since they both are volumes, which one is the right way?

PV=nRT

(100)(65)=n(8.31)(298)
(100)(65)/(8.31)(298) = n

which approach is correct?
 

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Also another question here, in a 2nd attachment

v=7.5 L

t=25C or 298K

P=100Kpa

PV=nRT

(100)(7.5)=n(8.31)(298)

750/(8.31)(298) =n

750/2476.38 =nHe

0.302=nHe (helium)

mass = n X molar mass

=(0.302)(4)

=1.208

Is this in grams or Kg? the mass of helium?
 

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supernova1203 said:
first approach is i use molar volume for SATP which is 24.76L and multiply 65L with it and i get 1609.4L

No, you don't get 1609L, you get 1609L2 - whatever it means. Watch your units and you will see when your approach doesn't make sense.
 
supernova1203 said:
Is this in grams or Kg? the mass of helium?

Again, if you were watching your units answer would be obvious.

What are units of molar mass?
 
Borek said:
Again, if you were watching your units answer would be obvious.

What are units of molar mass?

g/mol?
 
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Borek said:
No, you don't get 1609L, you get 1609L2 - whatever it means. Watch your units and you will see when your approach doesn't make sense.

so the first approach is what will get the correct solution?
 
supernova1203 said:
g/mol?

You havew to guess, you can't check?

supernova1203 said:
so the first approach is what will get the correct solution?

Only if the units make sense. Check if they do. What units should the final answer be in? What units your final answer has?
 
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i did check but i wasnt sure, hence the question mark.
 

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