Comparing two absolute value equations

In summary, the conversation discusses two ways to algebraically check if two expressions, |x+|y+z|| and ||x+y|+z|, are equal. One method involves considering all possible cases, while the other involves setting one variable to zero and dividing the equation. Both methods can be effective in proving the equality of the two expressions.
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marksyncm
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Hello,

How does one go about algebraically checking if [itex]|x+|y+z||[/itex] and [itex]||x+y|+z|[/itex] are equal?
 
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marksyncm said:
Hello,

How does one go about algebraically checking if [itex]|x+|y+z||[/itex] and [itex]||x+y|+z|[/itex] are equal?
You mean as in ##|x+|y+z||=|0+|-1+1||=0 \neq 2= ||0-1|+1|=||x+y|+z|\,##?
 
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The way that always works is to consider all possible cases. There are four absolute value signs, for each of which there are two possibilities: that the number they contain is negative or not. That gives ##2^4=16## cases to consider. If you consider each one in turn, and show that in that case the equality holds, and that is true for all cases, you will have proven the whole thing. If even one fails, it is disproven.

Often there will be a quicker way, specific to the particularities of the problem, that uses things like the triangle inequality. But if you can't find one, you can always fall back on the above 'brute force' method.
 
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Another possibility is to consider the case of one variable zero, e.g. ##x=0##. If it holds you can assume the case ##x\neq 0## and divide the entire equation by ##|x|##. Thus you will have only two variables and ##\pm 1## left.
 
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andrewkirk, this is exactly what I was looking for. Thank you.

fresh_42, thank you for your input as well, your last post is an interesting way of approaching this.
 

1. What is an absolute value equation?

An absolute value equation is an equation that involves the absolute value function, which represents the distance of a number from 0 on a number line. It can be written in the form of |x| = a, where a is a constant.

2. How do you solve absolute value equations?

To solve an absolute value equation, you must isolate the absolute value expression on one side of the equation. Then, you must consider both the positive and negative values of the expression to obtain two possible solutions.

3. What does it mean to compare two absolute value equations?

Comparing two absolute value equations means determining whether they have the same solutions or not. This can be done by setting the two equations equal to each other and solving for the variable to see if the resulting expressions are equivalent.

4. Can absolute value equations have more than one solution?

Yes, absolute value equations can have two solutions, one positive and one negative, since the absolute value function can result in both positive and negative values. However, there are cases where an absolute value equation may have no solutions.

5. How can absolute value equations be used in real life?

Absolute value equations can be used in real life to represent situations where the distance from a certain point is important, such as in physics and engineering problems. They can also be used to solve problems involving inequalities, such as finding the range of possible values for a variable.

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