Comparison test for series convergence (trig function)

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around determining the convergence of the series \(\sum_{x=1}^{\infty }\sin ^2(\frac{1}{x})\) using a comparison test. The subject area includes series convergence and trigonometric functions.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the use of the comparison test and discuss the approximation \(\sin x \approx x\) for small values of \(x\). Questions arise about the validity of using this approximation for \(\sin^2(1/x)\) and what functions to compare it to. There is also uncertainty regarding the implications of squaring the approximation.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the problem, questioning assumptions about approximations and their applicability. Some guidance is offered regarding the limit \(\lim_{x \to 0} \frac{\sin x}{x} = 1\) and its relevance to the series in question, but no consensus has been reached on a specific approach or comparison function.

Contextual Notes

There is a noted caution against using approximations without specifying tolerances for error. Participants express uncertainty about how to relate \(\sin(x)/x\) to \(\sin^2(1/x)\) in terms of their comparative magnitudes.

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Homework Statement



Use a comparison test to determine whether this series converges:

\sum_{x=1}^{\infty }\sin ^2(\frac{1}{x})

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The Attempt at a Solution



At small values of x:

\sin x\approx x
a_{x}=\sin \frac{1}{x}
b_{x}=\frac{1}{x}
\lim \frac{a_{x}}{b_{x}}=\frac{\sin \frac{1}{x}}{\frac{1}{x}}=1

Since 1/x diverges so does sin(1/x).

Can I use this same method to solve the question above? ( i.e. sin^2(1/x) )
 
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Why not just try out that same method? What can you compare sin2(1/x) to?
 
VrhoZna said:
Why not just try out that same method? What can you compare sin2(1/x) to?

I guess what I'm not sure about is if this is true:

\sin^2 x\approx x^{2}

Can I just make that assumption?
 
kwal0203 said:
I guess what I'm not sure about is if this is true:

\sin x\approx x^{2}

Can I just make that assumption?
No, reckless assumption often leads to errors. Do you recall that special trigonometric limit that involves sin? It involves a limit where x tends to 0 but with a clever use of substitution it may help you.
 
VrhoZna said:
No, reckless assumption often leads to errors. Do you recall that special trigonometric limit that involves sin? It involves a limit where x tends to 0 but with a clever use of substitution it may help you.

Hmm, what about this, if:

\sin x\approx x

then

\sin^2 x\approx x^{2}

Since I'm just squaring both sides it should still be true right?

Then I can go:

a_{x}=\sin ^2\frac{1}{x}
b_{x}=\frac{1}{x^2}

It does work out this way, but what function did you have in mind to compare it to?
 
kwal0203 said:
Hmm, what about this, if:

\sin x\approx x

then

\sin^2 x\approx x^{2}

Since I'm just squaring both sides it should still be true right?

Then I can go:

a_{x}=\sin ^2\frac{1}{x}
b_{x}=\frac{1}{x^2}

It does work out this way, but what function did you have in mind to compare it to?
You shouldn't use approximations as they don't have a place in mathematical problems of this nature and they don't mean anything without specifying a tolerance for error. sin(pi) is approximately equal to pi like 5 is approximately equal to 2

The limit I was referring to is lim x --> 0 (sinx/x) = 1. Try and figure out its application to this problem.
 
VrhoZna said:
You shouldn't use approximations as they don't have a place in mathematical problems of this nature and they don't mean anything without specifying a tolerance for error. sin(pi) is approximately equal to pi like 5 is approximately equal to 2

The limit I was referring to is lim x --> 0 (sinx/x) = 1. Try and figure out its application to this problem.

\sin x\leqslant 1
\frac{\sin x}{x^{2}}\leqslant \frac{1}{x^{2}}
\frac{\sin^2 x}{x^{2}}\leqslant \sin(\frac{1}{x^{2}})

Am I on the right track here?

Sorry, I'm not really sure how sin(x)/x relates to sin^2(1/x) in terms of which is greater than the other. How can I figure that out?
 

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