Complete Metric Space: X, d | Analysis/Explanation

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The discussion revolves around the completeness of various subsets of a metric space (X, d) where d is the usual metric. Participants explore whether the subsets [0,1], [0,1), [0,∞), and (-∞,0) are complete, examining the implications of closed sets and limit points.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant asserts that the interval [0,1] is complete because it is a closed subspace of the complete metric space of real numbers.
  • Another participant argues that the intervals [0,1), [0,∞), and (-∞,0) are not complete since they are not closed subsets.
  • A participant challenges the claim about the completeness of [0,∞), suggesting that its complement (-∞,0) is open, which implies that [0,∞) is closed.
  • It is noted that the sequence a_n = n/(n+1) in [0,1) is Cauchy but does not converge to a point within [0,1), supporting the argument that [0,1) is not complete.
  • One participant acknowledges a previous mistake regarding the completeness of the second interval, confirming that it is indeed not complete.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express disagreement regarding the completeness of the subsets, particularly [0,1) and [0,∞). Some participants maintain that certain intervals are complete while others argue against this, leading to an unresolved discussion.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference the properties of closed sets and limit points without resolving the implications for completeness in all cases. The discussion includes various interpretations of completeness based on the definitions of closed and open sets.

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Hi i am confused of the following question.

Suppose we have a Metric Space (X,d), where d is the usual metric. Now are the following subsets complete, if so why??

1.$$X=[0,1]$$
2.$$X=[0,1)$$
3.$$X=[0,\infty)$$
4.$$(-\infty,0)$$
 
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shen07 said:
Hi i am confused of the following question.

Suppose we have a Metric Space (X,d), where d is the usual metric. Now are the following subsets complete, if so why??

1.$$X=[0,1]$$
2.$$X=[0,1)$$
3.$$X=[0,\infty)$$
4.$$(-\infty,0)$$

Hi she07, :)

Since any closed subspace of a complete metric space (in this case the complete metric space is the set of real numbers with the usual metric) is complete, the fist interval is complete (refer >>this<<).

Conversely, a complete subset of a metric space is closed. Therefore the second third and fourth intervals are not complete since they are not closed.
 
I think the third interval is indeed closed, since its complement:

$(-\infty,0)$ is open.To see why the second interval is NOT complete, consider the sequence:$a_n = \dfrac{n}{n+1}$.It is clear that the set $A = \{a_n: n \in \Bbb N\} \subseteq [0,1)$ and that $\{1\}$ is a limit point of $A$ (and thus of $[0,1)$), but is not in $[0,1)$.Put another way, the sequence above is Cauchy, but not convergent to a point in $[0,1)$.
 
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Deveno said:
I think the third interval is indeed closed, since its complement:

$(-\infty,0)$ is open.To see why the second interval is NOT complete, consider the sequence:$a_n = \dfrac{n}{n+1}$.It is clear that the set $A = \{a_n: n \in \Bbb N\} \subseteq [0,1)$ and that $\{1\}$ is a limit point of $A$ (and thus of $[0,1)$), but is not in $[0,1)$.

Put another way, the sequence above is Cauchy, but not convergent to a point in $[0,1)$.

Thanks for pointing out the mistake. Yep, the second interval is indeed closed. :)
 

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