Completing the Square Method for Solving Polynomial Equations

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The discussion revolves around the polynomial equation f(x) = x^4 + 2x^3 + 5x^2 - 16x - 20 and the task of expressing it in a specific completed square form. Participants are exploring the method of completing the square in the context of polynomial equations.

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  • Participants are attempting to express the polynomial in the form (x^2 + x + a)^2 - 4(x + b)^2 and are discussing the process of expanding and comparing coefficients to determine the constants a and b. There are questions about the correctness of their expansions and the method of completing the square.

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The discussion is active, with participants sharing their attempts and questioning their methods. Some guidance has been provided regarding the expansion of the right-hand side of the equation and comparing coefficients to find the values of a and b. There is recognition that a simpler approach may exist.

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Participants are working under the constraints of a homework assignment, which may impose specific methods or forms to be used in their solutions. There is an emphasis on finding the correct constants a and b without providing complete solutions.

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hi guys.
If f(x) = x4 + 2x3 + 5x2 - 16x - 20, show that f(x) can be expressed in the form (x2 + x + a)2 - 4(x + b)2, where a and b are constant to be determined.

Hence, or otherwise, find both the real roots of the eqaution f(x) = 0. Find also the set of values of x such that f(x) > 0.

I tried completing the square
but i found
(x2 + x + (4x+30)/8)2 - 4[(x2)/16 + 4x + 185/32]

my a and b is WAY too off the answer, which is a = 4 and b = 3. Any help?
 
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You are given the answer in terms of a,b. So what you have to do is to expand out that answer and simply compare coefficients of powers of x to find out a,b.
 
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i have to find a and b first. I think i expand it wrongly. How should i complete the square for x^4 + 2x^3 + 5x^2 - 16x - 20 ? I tried again. I did :

(x^2 + x + 5/2)^2 - x^2 - 25/4 - 16x - 20. Correct?
 
Did the question tell you to complete the square? If not, you have x^4 + 2x^3 + 5x^2 -16x - 20 = (x^2+x+a)^2 - 4(x+b)^2. All you need to do is to expand out the RHS and compare the coefficients to get the values of a,b.
 
Oh ya... that is way easier ... dammit. Thanks.
 

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